TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #24

[HEY YOU!]

Hmm. So maybe the Altima IS the perp's vehicle. Maybe they busted the doors and windows, then went over to the gun store to watch. Seems risky, unless they knew they could keep lights off and get back on the highway without being noticed by a cop who arrived at the church.

I think they remembered to keep lights off but forgot that hitting the brake would light up the car. Probably same reason they have a light colored car in the distance in a video that they didn't feel comfortable releasing, maybe just the brake lights lit the car up and not all lights.

 

[arkansasmimi]

No takers? You have my word, I want call you out on how close or not you were when the truth comes out.

I honestly don't have enough facts to make a guess. Or I would .. Also not sure if male or female.

Only thing I am sure of... going to be a lot of people wrong lol here and all over the internet.. :what: Some will still not believe who the Alleged Murderer is even after an arrest lol.

I have a big day tomorrow. I want an arrest but only after I get back home :silly: I dont want to miss anything

 

[Cannonball3804]

Just a thought but why didn't he just leave? He wasn't recognizable.

Maybe he tried and she blocked his path, and he gives her one hard blow... She falls and cracks her head on a glass table. I'm not convinced that her puncture wounds came from the claw end of a hammer. Anyway, he may have initially intended to knock her out but went too far. Who knows.

 

[zoeneli]

Let's play a game. Clue, if you will indulge me? Just the profile I your opinion. Try not to refer to others or compare notes. Just your theory's core and suspect basics. As follows:

White male.
Mid 30 to mid 40s.
Premeditated
lives in or close to midlothian.
Known to victim, not necessarily to us.
History of acting out.
Motive / anger over failed or unrequited romance.

This is mine. Looking forward to reading all of yours. Afterwards, comparing notes may be interesting.

White male (I have waivered to white female at times)
Age mid 30s to early 40s.
Premeditated
Local
Known to victim and us
Motive / had a personal relationship with MB and was unhappy with that relationship

Not much changes above when I go to white female. The motive just moves to jealousy.

 

[amateur sleuth]

I will add to your list...

white female..
uncontrollable rage over ongoing infidelity by spouse triggered by recent hormonal imbalance. MO

 

[Cannonball3804]

Respectfully it is a huge leap considering LE stated the killer may have recorded the incident. Did they? I don't know, but if they did? They wanted their own video. And that flies in the face of reason for a robbery. Just sayin' only quoting the detectives investigating.

No, no, no. It's been discussed that the wording of the cell tower affidavit was confusing. "May have recorded the murder" was simply legal language to strengthen an argument for obtaining as much cell tower data as possible. It never meant that LE actually believed or had any evidence to indicate that video recording took place.

The stupid local media misconstrued the language and published headlines like "Police think MB's killer may have recorded the murder".

 

[WannaBDetective]

I wouldn't retain an attorney unless I knew I had done something wrong.

It will only take one experience of having random facts turned against you to understand how fluid and subjective truth and reality can be. You need an attorney if you are guilty. You really need one if you are innocent. To make sure your case is properly heard and understood. 1. The prosecutor/LE will have attorneys guiding them. 2. They know 10X more about rights and law, since they work in it full-time and have for years. 3. You can't see your own case clearly, because of personal bias and point of view. 4. They have specialist and experts that you probably don't even know existed. They've gone through years of schooling and testing, and are probably smarter and a better communicator than you. Having said that get a good one. Mediocre/unmotivated/tired/greedy ones do exist.

 

[Inthedetails]

i have been on the targeted/planned murder or hit train since this has happened, 100%...until tonight. I have started trying to put myself in the mind of the killer and I have a few problems...

1) why wouldn't I wait by a window with a clear view of the entrance so I could tell when MB arrived as well as keeping an eye out for police or anyone else? (Could they have had a police scanner with an earpiece)

2) if I knew when she was arriving (premeditated knowning her schedule) why wouldn't I be prepping for a murder instead of walking around like a frumpy idiot smacking things?

3) why bring a hammer (speculation on the murder weapon) when so many other weapons don't require close contact (transfer of dna and blood?)

4) why risk getting hurt/cut on glass and things I'm breaking? (Yes, you can still get cut through gloves.)

I just believe that a hired hit or a murder with planned rage would be focused. The chips are going to fall if you are caught, so what does staging the scene really buy you? An investigation of murder goes to those close to the victim fort in almost all cases. Breaking a few things here and there really doesn't confuse people, besides us who have little evidence. The investigation works from the inner circle out and police can work through multiple scenarios at once.

All this being said, I am drifting from the targeted murder because I can't shake these thoughts. Still not sure though.

All MO obviously.

It's questions like these that keep the idea of two perps on the table for me. If the perp meandering around the church had a partner - either in the church or elsewhere - that might explain the relaxed attitude we see.

jmopinions (plural because I have more than one opinion on the case, and they are in conflict!)

 

[liz b.]

It's questions like these that keep the idea of two perps on the table for me. If the perp meandering around the church had a partner - either in the church or elsewhere - that might explain the relaxed attitude we see.

jmopinions (plural because I have more than one opinion on the case, and they are in conflict!)

They could have gone to the church to act out a game. jmo

 

[thorpedo]

My theory, exactly! Thank you

 

[Bcoin]

They could have gone to the church to act out a game. jmo

Could be. I am just saying why I am drifting away from a targeted murder. At that point, it could be many many scenarios.

 

[Seriously?]

i have been on the targeted/planned murder or hit train since this has happened, 100%...until tonight. I have started trying to put myself in the mind of the killer and I have a few problems...

1) why wouldn't I wait by a window with a clear view of the entrance so I could tell when MB arrived as well as keeping an eye out for police or anyone else? (Could they have had a police scanner with an earpiece)

2) if I knew when she was arriving (premeditated knowning her schedule) why wouldn't I be prepping for a murder instead of walking around like a frumpy idiot smacking things?

3) why bring a hammer (speculation on the murder weapon) when so many other weapons don't require close contact (transfer of dna and blood?)

4) why risk getting hurt/cut on glass and things I'm breaking? (Yes, you can still get cut through gloves.)

I just believe that a hired hit or a murder with planned rage would be focused. The chips are going to fall if you are caught, so what does staging the scene really buy you? An investigation of murder goes to those close to the victim fort in almost all cases. Breaking a few things here and there really doesn't confuse people, besides us who have little evidence. The investigation works from the inner circle out and police can work through multiple scenarios at once.

All this being said, I am drifting from the targeted murder because I can't shake these thoughts. Still not sure though.

All MO obviously.

Just a couple of thoughts. It's dark-thirty out there - no street lights, just a church set back off the road. And it's not just raining, it's pouring rain that night. The headlights from Ms. Bevers' truck would have lighted up that area.
What this half-XXXed burglary staging did was buy about 24 hrs or so when this murder was investigated as a "wrong place/wrong time" death. Gave the killer a little extra time to let those emotions in check...........anxiety after this murder could be perceived as grief response/concern for personal safety/etc.
Just maybe..........but we don't have enough information until our friend who knows someone with the FBI gets back to us:loveyou:

 

[Blue Sky]

Interesting how this other case in Rowlett which is also in the Dallas-Fort Worth area turned out . . .

"Days before his planned wedding, the groom-to-be paid two convicted sex offenders to kill the 37-year-old Rowlett mother he was set to marry, officials say.

After Grillo's death, Makris posted on Facebook "I miss you and love you. I know you are in a better place. No more struggle for you."

In another post, he wrote that Grillo was "more than my fiance. She was my everything, and no I don't know who would do something like that to her."

After his fiancee’s death, Makris interacted with police only when asked to participate in an interview and did not ask the status of the case, Nabors said.

In February, Makris told WFAA-TV (Channel 8) that he was shocked to hear that Trevino, who was supposed to be one of his groomsmen, might be connected to the slaying."

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...er.html/?_ga=1.80426775.1097713324.1464839970

 

[dotr]

Just a couple of thoughts. It's dark-thirty out there - no street lights, just a church set back off the road. And it's not just raining, it's pouring rain that night. The headlights from Ms. Bevers' truck would have lighted up that area.
What this half-XXXed burglary staging did was buy about 24 hrs or so when this murder was investigated as a "wrong place/wrong time" death. Gave the killer a little extra time to let those emotions in check...........anxiety after this murder could be perceived as grief response/concern for personal safety/etc.
Just maybe..........but we don't have enough information until our friend who knows someone with the FBI gets back to us:loveyou:

rbbm.
Maybe the killer's anxiety abated after the murder, after all, they accomplished what they wanted to do, everyone is talking about it and pointing fingers at each other, they might very well be on cloud 9 right now.
For now.
imo, speculation.

 

[RoxieC]

Let's play a game. Clue, if you will indulge me? Just the profile I your opinion. Try not to refer to others or compare notes. Just your theory's core and suspect basics. As follows:

White male.
Mid 30 to early 40s.
Premeditated
lives in or close to midlothian.
Known to victim, not necessarily to us.
History of acting out.
Motive / anger over failed or unrequited romance.

This is mine. Looking forward to reading all of yours. Afterwards, comparing notes may be interesting.

White female
30 to 40s
Local to area
Known to victim/MB was targeted
I think suspect only meant to threaten MB. Possibly source of "creepy" LinkedIn message. I think MB fought back & suspect killed her.



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[concernedmother]

If she was targeted, they may have footage of the perp. The perp may have came prior to the crime to scout out the place .

 

[Seriously?]

rbbm.
Maybe the killer's anxiety abated after the murder, after all, they accomplished what they wanted to do, everyone is talking about it and pointing fingers at each other, they might very well be on cloud 9 right now.
For now.
imo, speculation.

Could be. I need to follow my own posts!!!! We don't know much because we don't know motive and relationship!!! However, I do think anger and rage preceded the murder. The wandering costumed killer doesn't present as anxious in the video - eerily casual, cavalier. Killer could be feeling pretty good now, but we're 5 weeks or so out. I was thinking immediately following the murder. Coming down from that rush could have mirrored anxiety.
We're just waiting this thing out, right?????

 

[Gwyndolyn]

i have been on the targeted/planned murder or hit train since this has happened, 100%...until tonight. I have started trying to put myself in the mind of the killer and I have a few problems...

1) why wouldn't I wait by a window with a clear view of the entrance so I could tell when MB arrived as well as keeping an eye out for police or anyone else? (Could they have had a police scanner with an earpiece)

2) if I knew when she was arriving (premeditated knowning her schedule) why wouldn't I be prepping for a murder instead of walking around like a frumpy idiot smacking things?

3) why bring a hammer (speculation on the murder weapon) when so many other weapons don't require close contact (transfer of dna and blood?)

4) why risk getting hurt/cut on glass and things I'm breaking? (Yes, you can still get cut through gloves.)

I just believe that a hired hit or a murder with planned rage would be focused. The chips are going to fall if you are caught, so what does staging the scene really buy you? An investigation of murder goes to those close to the victim fort in almost all cases. Breaking a few things here and there really doesn't confuse people, besides us who have little evidence. The investigation works from the inner circle out and police can work through multiple scenarios at once.

All this being said, I am drifting from the targeted murder because I can't shake these thoughts. Still not sure though.

All MO obviously.

I don't completely disagree, because it was so risky and there are still a few things that don't make sense, but a few thoughts---

1) maybe that is why SP opened doors to get a view of headlights, or knew what time she would arrive down to a few minutes

2) maybe SP did quiet down and hide closer to time for the act-- maybe the destructive acts were closer to 3:50 and not 4:16

3) yeah no good answer for that

4) agree it was risky, but it did look like SP was pretty well-covered


Why set the stage? Still not sure maybe s/he thought they were going to set the stage better, clean up, erase video and then the early camper messed it up? Maybe s/he thought it would throw just enough suspicion to muddy the waters? I agree high-risk especially if MB would have not entered that morning, been with someone else, canceled last minute-- the suspect would have lost the edge and advantage of surprise, because the video footage and damage would already be done.

all just my opinion

 

[PibblePal]

Ok... At risk of an answer that has been stated many times in these threads that I may have missed (and I read ALL)...

Did they say a news station got a pic of the Altima? Where am I getting this thought?!


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[arkansasmimi]

If she was targeted, they may have footage of the perp. The perp may have came prior to the crime to scout out the place .

:seeya: Glad to see you join us!!! :genie: