TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016- # 8

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  1. texasgirl2

    texasgirl2 Verified Insider in Hannah Thomas Garner case

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    BBM: This is what I have been thinking too based on the wording of the search warrant. I can't figure out another way that the perp wouldn't have been seen on the cameras again . I am just not sure that we have enough information on the layout of the church just yet to know this as fact. But, I definitely think it's a pretty good guess!

    It really bothered me to read that Missy walked toward the perp's location. I can't help but think that this definitely wasn't a coincidence. He/she knew where Missy would go when she walked into the church. Ugh, that bothers me.

    As happy as I am that we have more information to work with, it's absolutely NO comparison to the amount of sadness I feel for Missy & her loved ones tonight. :sigh:



    G'night all.
     


  2. Nationals

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    Generic wording. Small town police force, big city problems surrounding them. Few murders so they also train with DEA, IRS, etc and get certified to handle local topical problems like gangs and drugs etc.
     
  3. verbonica

    verbonica Well-Known Member

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    Not really moved indoors, but to under the awning. Normally they had it out in the parking lot. I don't know what Missy was doing inside the church.
     
  4. giagreen

    giagreen Well-Known Member

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    I noticed this also. I've tried so hard to keep my opinions to myself as of course I know nothing for certain. But the walk on that fil was enough that if he wasn't on TV and I saw him in real life in that area I'd call a tip in....seriously.


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  5. Nationals

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    The more I view the video the more I wonder if this perp or perps really were there just to rob the place. So many people desperate for money especially in states with high illegal populations. If he/she was just there to kill someone why waste so much time and effort breaking into all of the doors, leaving behind trace evidence, and risk being seen or heard. Most intelligent people would think churches have no money in them, but maybe this perp thought they might from the Sunday donations. Maybe it's a parishioner, a janitor, or some repairman who worked there recently. I am starting to think this really may have been an attempted burglary gone bad. Burglaries are extremely common especially at that time of day. He/she may have also thought secretary might show up eventually and he could force her to turn over the cash. Also, the fact that he meandered around calmly makes me think he wasn't expecting anyone to show up for a long time and was probably surprised when Missy did. If he was lying in wait for her he wouldn't be smashing things loudly and leaving glass everywhere that would certainly scare her away, he'd be hiding somewhere ready to pounce. Also, new info show's weapons of death were his B&E tools and something he found in church's kitchen, which makes me think he didn't plan to kill anyone or he would have brought a knife or gun or something specifically to kill someone. Carrying a gun during the commission of a B&E is worse than no gun. Also the investment in the strange fake police get-up and headlight gear etc screams professional B&E guy to me who killed because he couldn't risk getting caught and maybe deported or sent back to jail.
     
  6. Nationals

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    . I think a lot of people with fat stomachs have that walk and they were both out of town at the time supposedly.
     
  7. giagreen

    giagreen Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Just another odd coincident.

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  8. midlo33

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    Interesting...especially the part about the rain helping him evade the bloodhounds!
     
  9. Eloise

    Eloise Well-Known Member

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    When I think of men past a certain age, I think that walk is very common. Knees go bad, carrying extra weight, etc etc.

    Less so with women. I haven't thought it was a female perp for a while now though.
     
  10. Nationals

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    This has all the earmarks of an attempted burglary gone wrong. Thats why they haven't IDed the perp or perps yet. That's also why he didn't park under surveillance cameras and why he disguised himself and why he was in no hurry while smashing glass and prying doors inside church, clearly looking for cash or electronics. He didn't think anyone would come in probably for hours. He killed her because she surprised him, probably saw his face, and he didn't want to either go back to jail or get deported. He invested in all of the tools of the trade and had to use those as well as whatever else was at his disposal to kill her as he wasn't prepared to kill anyone that day. Probably walked there or hid car streets away. My money's on B&E gone wrong. The crime is extremely common and statistically this is the most probable by a mile. If he worked alone they may never catch him.
     
  11. SandyQLS

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    I think there are exit doors on the wall marked stage area that go to the back hallway, fire codes probably require them. I think the suspect crossed the entire auditorium to the opposite corner, door closest to the two busted double doors, and exited fast enough to not be caught on camera. OR, they broke some of the cameras (near their exit back doors or kitchen) after being sure they were seen on video committing "burglary/robbery". The police only said "not seen again" - they did not indicate why (like if some cameras were broken). He did not break the camera where Missy entered because she might notice the damage, or along the main hallway because he didn't need to. MOO.
     
  12. MzOpinion8d

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    Thank you so much for posting this!
     
  13. arkansasmimi

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    checking in to see if anything new..
     
  14. FelineGinger

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    IMO burglers don't saunter around, they go straight for the money/goods. The perp in this case was not carrying a duffel bag to retrieve items. A burgler would also not wear such an elaborate disguise for a few church trinkets and a wad of cash. A burgler would not stop and look at a religious saying on the wall (Holy Grounds) nor would he stop and look at the Community Bulletin Board. LE already confirmed it was only a feigned burglery, with the destruction of the windows, etc. The sole intent was to ambush MB and kill her.

    I would also like to point out that, statistically, for MB to be murdered on the one day her husband is away on his yearly fishing trip, are off the charts. 80,000,000 to one is my guess!
     
  15. arkansasmimi

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    catching up so may have already been discussed, sorry if so
    The Ipad was in the truck (it is listed on the search warrant for the truck) That's when I figured out that the cellphone wasn't listed there and had to be with her. Once they retrieved the Ipad from the truck, then they had to get the warrant to look into the IPad and the phone separate. They would have had the cellphone in evidence from the crime scene. JMHO
     
  16. Msskeptic

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    With the horrifying COD, I think this was drug related. It was done to send a message. Not to MB, but to someone close to her that angered a big-time drug dealer. Perhaps someone who became addicted to prescription pain meds and then turned to the black market.
     
  17. Nationals

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    I completely disagree. They'd be much more likely to dress that way and carry all of those common B&E tools if professional B&E robber knowing most businesses have surveillance. Also, they can't go "straight for the goods" if they have no clue where the goods are. This perp obviously was looking for something, not lying in wait to kill someone IMO. People love to look for the big mystery filled with secrets etc, but I bet it's just the usual attempted robbery gone wrong. Happens all of the time.
     
  18. MzOpinion8d

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    I made a video clip of RB walking with a split screen of Fake Cop walking, and they're sooo similar. I can't upload it anywhere unless I pay $$ for the app I used and I don't want to buy it lol. I've been watching people walk everywhere I go for 2 weeks and haven't seen a gait like that anywhere yet.
     
  19. MzOpinion8d

    MzOpinion8d On Time Out

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    That's not even necessary. In an area as big as Dallas, a person could Doctor hop and get tons of Rx pain pills. You wouldn't BELIEVE the amount of opiates and benzos I see prescribed to people sometimes. Especially with a legitimate chronic pain issue - it would be so easy to get pain pills.
     
  20. MzOpinion8d

    MzOpinion8d On Time Out

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    Well your line of thinking sure has changed a lot in the last few hours!!

    Editing to add that I didn't mean that's a bad thing - just that I noticed it!
     
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