UK - 39 bodies found in lorry, Essex, 23 October 2019

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    Secure your vehicle to help stop illegal immigration


    If someone hides in your vehicle
    Your drivers should contact the police if they suspect that someone is hiding in a vehicle.

    Before departing for the UK
    Your drivers must not go through UK border control, or board transport to the UK, if they suspect there’s someone hiding in the vehicle they’re driving.

    They should contact the police in the country they’re in or speak to border control at the port where they plan to board. They can also contact Border Force at the port where they plan to arrive.

    After arriving in the UK
    Drivers shouldn’t approach anyone hiding in a vehicle. They should stay in the cab of the vehicle and contact the local police.

    The police will take the driver’s details and your company’s details, and tell Border Force about the clandestine entrants.

    You and your driver may get letters from the clandestine entrant civil penalty team, which is part of Border Force, asking for information about the security system in place on that day.

    Your information will be used to help decide who will be fined, and by how much. For examples of how this is decided, read the ‘Level of penalty: code of practice’.

    At UK border control
    Your driver may be interviewed about the security system they’re using if clandestine entrants are found in your vehicle at UK border control, at a port in the UK or anywhere in Europe.

    They can refuse to be interviewed and leave at any stage, but it’s in their interest to give as much information as they can. Your company and the vehicle’s owner or hirer may also be asked for information.

    Your information will be used to help decide who will be fined, and by how much. For examples of how this is decided, read the ‘Level of penalty: code of practice’.
     
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    I'd imagine the difference in weight would be the first sign ie pulling a trailer with people in would feel significantly lighter than pulling one laden with goods.
     
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    sigh
    if he thought he had a legitimate load and it had shifted is what we were discussing

     
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    Daily Mail article has a long sidebar with the Bulgarian guy who registered the Scania truck in 2017. Ivan says that he was a student in Rochester, Kent way back in 2000, when he first met Mahers.

    The similar tragedy involving 59 Chinese citizens occurred in June 2000. Their trailer also came to UK from Zeebrugge port.

    Varna, Bulgaria was also linked to the Aug 2015 tragedy at Nickelsdorf. 71 asylum seekers died, trapped inside a small truck on a very hot day.

    Thorough investigation will probably link all of these human traffickers.
     
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    Mo Robinson parked the trailer near DTRE office in Essex.

    I immediately checked their website and found a senior employee named Robinson. But so far, nothing from police or MSM about that.
     
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    Robinson is one of the most common surnames in Britain, there's probably nothing in that.
     
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    GTR is ran by the devlin family who in themselves have previous it would seem for smuggling laundering type stuff (fuel) - there’s a family tree with online details them all, and from there if you look at the names and google them then companies become apparent and it’s clear that there’s a lot of money in their family too, (seems one son may be a senior lawyer who’s been involved in government type stuff here from a quick glance at his page) and links perhaps to murkier stuff (think racehorses / multiple companies / booze shops or companies / properties company named after the racehorse / fuel smuggling / laundering etc)...
     
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    Notice allegedly posted at the match yesterday between Clapton CFC and CB Hounslow United Reserves. #Essex #lorrydeaths

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    Nga Pham on Twitter
     
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    It was indeed.

    I am persuaded that he knew exactly what he was doing, since we are hearing that people had arranged to meet some of the victims at the drop-off.

    I was really just musing on whether he could have come up with a credible cover story, but it's gone beyond that now.
     
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    27 October 2019


    Essex lorry deaths: Police issue statement over man arrested at Dublin Port

    A man arrested at Dublin Port on Saturday is a "person of interest" in connection with the deaths of 39 migrants, police confirmed in a statement released on Sunday night.

    A spokesperson for Essex Police said: "Essex Police can confirm that a man arrested by the Garda at Dublin Port on Saturday 26 October is a person of interest in our murder investigation regarding the 39 people found dead in a lorry in Purfleet on Wednesday 23 October.

    "His arrest was for an unconnected matter. We are liaising with the Garda via telephone as this man is currently held outside the jurisdiction of the law of England and Wales."

    Essex police issue statement over man arrested at Dublin Port
     
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    One is tempted to ask ... is this good news or bad news? Even if it risks upsetting some people.

    Will the migrants on board thank their lucky stars they have been found?

    I am not sure this has anything directly to do with this particular thread ... Not sure how this forum works .. but I think each disappearance (for example) is treated as a separate thread, unless they can be shown to be linked?
     
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