UK - 39 bodies found in lorry, Essex, 23 October 2019

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  1. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Wait a minute. This tragedy is being blamed upon the British government now, for trying to control illegal immigration? That seems unfair. JMO
     
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  2. Mrs Marple

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    Best ignored l think. The only people responsible are the unscrupulous individuals who took their money in exchange for 'safe' passage.
     
  3. CoverMeCagney

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    Horrific, and I'd definitely say that was intentional murder - the smugglers knew those 71 people were going to die and they just abandoned them on the road anyway.
     
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    It's very unfair but we have a lot of political mud-slinging going on so I'm not surprised. It won't be the end of it, either!

    I am shocked that lorries aren't checked more thoroughly though. I wonder when the back doors of this particular truck were last opened.
     
  5. Mrs Marple

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    BBM quite. Either someone is being paid to turn a blind eye or checks really need to be stepped up.
     
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    Sounds more like body thefts to be sold for black market body harvesting. MOO.
     
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    Is it possible that the people could have sneaked onto the truck without the driver knowing?
     
  8. CoverMeCagney

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    That has certainly happened before - a handful of people jumping out from the back of trucks having hidden behind boxes or whatever, but I reckon 39 is too many to try and pull a stunt like that. Will be interesting to see if that's what the driver claims happened, and whether he is actually charged with murder.
     
  9. Jealoushe

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    I see it being mentioned in media that it looks more like human trafficking than illegal immigration. Do they use the term human trafficking broadly to mean the same thing as illegal immigration or could that mean something more sinister?
     
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    It sounds to me like illegal immigration... Sorry, but I won't blame the government. We have to realize that without laws, we would be in chaos.

    So sad that so many lost their lives.
     
  11. Mrs Marple

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    No not the same but heavily linked. Trafficked people get forced into trades. Nail salons and sex work and takeaways spring to mind. It is possible they were trafficked. Rhe people concerned are usually tricked into it or have to 'pay off' the debt for being brought over.
     
  12. HayLouise

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    Check FB now guys - lots of messages of support.

    @CoverMeCagney posted link previously
     
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    Very possible that the driver picked up the unit without any knowledge of what was on it and may not have been transporting the unit a long time, only a small portion of the journey. IMO,
     
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    17:56

    Police say the "dignity of the victims" will be reserved as their bodies are recovered

    Deputy Chief Constable Pippa Mills made a statement at the scene. She said:

    “The lorry and the trailer will be moved to a secure location at Tilbury Docks so the bodies can be recovered while reserving the dignity of the victims.

    “We are yet to identify them and must manage this sensitively with their families.

    “I appreciate how much this attention will continue to attract and the public and media appetite to understand what happened.

    “We also need to understand what has happened and Essex Police will be working with all our partners to ensure this happens as quickly as possible.”

    Live updates as NI man arrested after 39 bodies found in lorry
     
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    18:01

    It is said to be ‘highly unlikely’ that the 39 people are Bulgarian

    Essex Police now believe that the lorry which carried the bodies of 39 people before becoming one of the biggest crime scenes in British history travelled from Belgium.

    Due to this new information, it is said to be ‘highly unlikely’ that the 39 people found dead inside are Bulgarian.

    Read more here.

    Live updates as NI man arrested after 39 bodies found in lorry
     
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