UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #2

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We should NOT be trashing the victims family here. That has been made clear several times and the thread can be shut down for that.

We are at trial phase, whatever you think of her family beyond the stuff that has been testified to in court should not be up for discussion, gossip and ridicule.
 
Re: the phone locating the owner - that relies on multiple phone cells with overlapping edges so you can tell, by how long communication from mast to phone takes, how far the phone is from that mast. That allows you to triangulate location, as long as there are multiple masts. It's not clear to me how many masts there are in Rothesay (only one comes up on a google search, i tried my own area with the same query and it was accurate in the sense that it picked out the masts i know to exist), but if there aren't many it's possible that he was closest to one mast at all three locations (home, the Ardbeg rd, the murder site). GPS is far more useful, but only if the owner of the phone has it activated.
 
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Re: the phone locating the owner - that relies on multiple phone cells with overlapping edges so you can tell, by how long communication from mast to phone takes, how far the phone is from that mast. That allows you to triangulate location, as long as there are multiple masts. It's not clear to me how many masts there are in Rothesay (only one comes up on a google search, i tried my own area with the same query and it was accurate in the sense that it picked out the masts i know to exist), but if there aren't many it's possible that he was closest to one mast at all three locations (home, the Ardbeg rd, the murder site). GPS is far more useful, but only if the owner of the phone has it activated.
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The locus of the crime is all in the same vicinity. I reckon any triangulation wouldn't have given them much to go on, if at all. The prosecution will only want to bring solids into evidence rather than things easily debunked to jurors by defence. They'll stick to things they can say with some degree of certainty.
On GPS on phone, I'm now London based and can say that despite that my phone sometimes picks me up on google maps a street or two away. Again, given that it all happened in a small area might not be reliable enough for Court.
 
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auldlassie777 said:
Yes, I had watched 2 videos I found when the murder happened but none where he spoke. In one I watched there was no audio at all. In another parkour one only laughing and some shouting (maybe not by him even) that was indistinct. I have just found one now that has him speaking while trampolining and watched it. I don't think he seems well spoken for what that is worth though. Just a normal Scottish lad. Do others think he sounds well spoken? Perhaps I am not good at judging the west coast accent as I don't hear it normally? I don't really believe our accents don't have much to indicate regarding criminality either way of course.
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Def well spoken ... not posh
 
charlotte123456 said:
Do we know what the actual distance is from murder site to his back garden? I wish they would report distance rather than time taken to walk. As others have pointed out, people have varying walking speeds and the suspect is a fit and healthy teenager.
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I don't believe they can report distance, as it would give a good indicator of where his house is
As you say , time to walk from point A to point B is subjective, distance is not.
 
Kikixxxx said:
Connor Gillies deleted his tweet about “defence are concerned for the accused as he’s woken up at 6.30am and not getting back to prison till 8.30pm”

Maybe a lot of people were fuming. I know I was!
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That really annoyed me as well. I bet it was himself who asked for this to be brought up in court. Only concerned about himself.

Now I'm wondering why it takes him 5 hours to get back to prison? court finished at 3.30pm? how is it so far away?
 
nothinonyou said:
That really annoyed me as well. I bet it was himself who asked for this to be brought up in court. Only concerned about himself.

Now I'm wondering why it takes him 5 hours to get back to prison? court finished at 3.30pm? how is it so far away?
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I think once court is adjourned all people there that day facing trial that are remanded in custody have to be processed and held in cells within the high court building. They are processed in then processed out into transport. I think it's like a queue (i may be wrong) If the accused has to wait for police escort back to prison that could be quite lengthy. When he arrives back at prison he will be processed back in, most likely searched, possibly showered and then back to his cell.
 
Truthseeker777 said:
A couple points...

Didn't the father RM say he found her in the living room and then put her to bed at somewhere between 10.30 and 11.00(or11.30?)...can't remember the exact time but certainly earlier than the gran hearing the child calling out at midnight or thereabouts...do you have a link for this statem3nt from the gran please?

Also I did read a report which stated that the accused returned wearing a t-shirt after his 7 minute outing...can't find it now and don't know if it was accurate reporting or not...any thoughts on this?
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I have searched back to last July but can no longer find the comment reported from grandmother re hearing Alesha call out for Peppa Pig, just after midnight. If I recall correctly, the complete comment was that grandmother heard her call out but thought she was just talking in her sleep, so didn't go to see her.
She was clearly very upset when talking about this, as she believed that what she had actually heard was Alesha being taken from the flat.

It stayed in my mind at the beginning of this trial, when we learnt that the abduction seems to have happened after 2am and I thought, I do hope that might help her grandmother, just a little bit, to know that all she heard at that time was simply Alesha talking in her sleep.

I can only suspect that this comment has been pulled from msm - does happen and can be quite frustrating.
 
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Truthseeker777 said:
A couple points...
Also I did read a report which stated that the accused returned wearing a t-shirt after his 7 minute outing...can't find it now and don't know if it was accurate reporting or not...any thoughts on this?
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Here we go - take your pick - the variations that journos provide !

Fraser Knight‏ @Fraser_Knight
She tells the jury further CCTV footage saw him leave earlier, come back, where he took a shower and went back out in just a pair of shorts and “what looked like a black t-shirt” - he came back again 7 minutes later




Radio Clyde News‏Verified account
Says she went further back in the CCTV to discover he left in the direction of Rothesay town and passed Robert MacPhail’s home. He returned from a different direction and had a shower. He left again wearing only shorts and carrying a T-Shirt and jumped over a wall.
 
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