Found Safe UK - Antonino Coppola, 23, from Richmond, Surrey, missing from Bow, East London, 16 Sep 2021

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  1. infinit

    infinit Well-Known Member

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    True. I guess it would only be in the case that he was located and didn't wish it to be disclosed to his family? I'd have assumed the Police would have after a certain time if there was lack of progress, but I'm guessing that's not standard practise?

    You make a good point actually, I'd forgot Bow Road is essentially overground, so messaging him would make a lot more sense and would have worked. My thoughts about going to the platform were based on usually at Underground stations you don't get signal down at the platforms. I guess that makes it even more strange, because he wouldn't have to go there and risk being sick inside to let him know. I'd have thought if he decided that was what he was going to do, that he'd send the message fairly early on having decided to walk or whatever. So if something happened I think it must have happened within close proximity to the area. I thought about the possibility of some form of Taxi or Uber but would he want to risk that if unable to control his stomach? The fees for throwing up and putting the vehicle out of action can be quite big.

    Your idea of him going down a side street to throw up further in peace I could see having happened. The Magistrates CCTV I'd hope would be able to indicate that. If there was some kind of random attack down a side road, it'd still be unusual for the body to then be taken IMO. But then this does seem quite unusual in general.
     


  2. Tortoise

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    Do you know if they continued to watch the CCTV for several minutes beyond that point?

    Also do you know who owns the CCTV camera, and who controlled the playback of the part they watched? Have they asked for it all to be saved?

    It occurred to me that he might have looked back because someone shouted at him for walking away and not going into the station to get help to clean it up, or some sand to throw over it to prevent others slipping. Someone who might have decided even a minute or two later to go after him and confront him further along the street, or around the corner. Perhaps someone who works in the station, or a vendor in a kiosk around the station approach, or anyone who might have been approaching or leaving the station within that timeframe.

    I think it's concerning that his phone wasn't working so soon and if I was the family I would be badgering the police for assistance with seizing CCTV footage, if it wasn't already done by the police, because I think there is strong possibility that he could have been a victim of a crime. I would want to watch the part after he left the station. He might have not exactly chosen to walk what we think is the most logical route after leaving the station, to find a place to clean up or use a public convenience, but been trying to lose someone on his tail.

    Police should be using their powers to get as much footage as possible from local establishments before it's wiped over. Even if he's not on footage that can be just as informative, as in he didn't come past that point so must have turned down a different road. It seems as if pressure might need to be applied, urgently, and now might be a good time for a newspaper to highlight the story and pressure the Met police, given the current trouble they are in.
     
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  3. AcbMurders

    AcbMurders Well-Known Member

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    Rucksack appeal by CHLV (links and screenshots to FBA are not normally allowed on WS, but this is an official appeal by Italian national TV)
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  4. Officer Dibble

    Officer Dibble Well-Known Member

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    We don't know if his 'appendix' has been on and off troublesome all week or not. So we can't discount that. I now however have shifted over to thinking he left with purpose (not about the vomit). JMO MOO
     
  5. Officer Dibble

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    He could have seen someone on the train or platform that he knew 'was after him' (for whatever reason) and he had to make an excuse and escape. OR he was checking Ciro the friend on the platform hadn't followed him. JMO MOO.
     
  6. Officer Dibble

    Officer Dibble Well-Known Member

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    I wonder why he isn't on Missing People? What is the protocol for that? Who administers that?
     
  7. Officer Dibble

    Officer Dibble Well-Known Member

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    For all we know some contact has been made with someone but its being kept quiet from the public.
     
  8. Officer Dibble

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    Either they know something from intelligence that the public do not know or they are too overwhelmed with not enough resources to do this. Missing men are a very low priority in the UK with regards to Police, I'm sad to say. It needs the family to spearhead getting all ring doorbells and cctv and car dash cam footage ASAP before its wiped. This will give some clues. But they have to act fast as two weeks have gone by now or more. JMO MOO
     
  9. JuicyLucy

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    Missing People will publicise a case at the request of the family but only with the agreement of the police.

    Not all their appeals are public ones.
     
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  10. Officer Dibble

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    Oh I had no idea.
     
  11. MsMiniSleuth

    MsMiniSleuth Well-Known Member

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    AcbMurders Well-Known Member

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    Missing from ‘Putney London’???
     
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  13. SaintGertrude

    SaintGertrude Former Member

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    So he must have been last seen in Putney and possibly a chosen disappearance or is this a mistake on the part of the missing people group.
    I began to wonder if he may have accepted a lift in his vulnerability and been trafficked Myths and facts about human trafficking in the UK | Unseen
     
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    SaintGertrude Former Member

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    positano86, Have you any further news for us as the missing peoples site says he is missing from Putney rather than Bow station so I wondered if there has been some kind of recent update about the disappearance
     
  15. Tortoise

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    I can't help thinking there's been some crossed wires here, or someone at police end hasn't been as proactive as they should have been in sending this through to the correct police force. The police tweet doesn't even mention he got off the train at Bow Road, he's not missing from Richmond, that's ridiculous. I'm feeling really frustrated because I feel his family isn't getting the correct assistance and is being fobbed off.

    Richard Okorogheye's mother had to really fight to get them to take any notice of her. It's out of character for him and he wasn't well, that should be enough. I wonder if the embassy is helping them at all.
     
  16. Officer Dibble

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    Missing from PUTNEY? WTH?!
     
  17. Officer Dibble

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    I just posted the same thing then read your comment.
     
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  18. AcbMurders

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    I agree there must have been crossed wires. If the family reported AC missing to the Italian authorities, who then informed the British authorities, chances are that his last home address/postcode was mistaken for the area where he went missing. Even so, why on earth did Richmond police not refer this case to Tower Hamlets, it’s a mystery. More than one person have flagged this up on the two police forces’ social media, but they don’t seem to take any notice
     
  19. Angleterre

    Angleterre Verified LE & Senior Investigate Officer, England

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    I will stand by @Officer Dibbles comment here and back him up. He didn’t say ALL missing men but certainly a huge proportion of missing men are not a priority for the Police unless there are unusual and exceptional circumstances around the disappearance and I speak from experience, so yes, it is true !
     
  20. Officer Dibble

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    Someone needs to take control of this and right the wrongs.
     

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