GUILTY UK - Arnold Hartley, 73, beaten to death, Redcar, 29 Nov 2003

Discussion in 'Recently Sentenced and Beyond' started by blueclouds, Dec 2, 2003.

  1. blueclouds

    blueclouds Former member

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  3. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    Justice.
     
  4. mindys

    mindys Former Member

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    I despise how this article painted this monstor. The heartache he brought upon his victims and their families is beyond what he "suffered". Justice indeed.
     
  5. Toth

    Toth Inactive

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    Perhaps this thread should be merged with the thread concerning the KKK inititation mishap. It would make a very interesting juxtaposition: you people seem to greatly favor mob violence in certain situations and oppose it vehemently in other situations.
     
  6. Ghostwheel

    Ghostwheel Pyrrhonist

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    Toth,
    Am I understanding correctly that you are comparing mob vengeance against a person who molests children with mob attacks against someone because their skin color is different? (I don't think that would be vengeance, unless it's retaliation for the people being born of a different race?) Or are you making another comparison?
     
  7. Toth

    Toth Inactive

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    I'm merely pointing out that those who condemn the KKK because of what they see as mob violence should not be so gleefully chortling over this particular act of mob violence, simply because they happen to think the victim deserved it.
     
  8. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    I don't agree with "mob violence." The KKK want to hurt people simply for the color of their skin. These people were getting rid of human garbage that sexually abused children. Big dif, Toth don't you agree?
     
  9. Ghostwheel

    Ghostwheel Pyrrhonist

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    Interesting point, although I don't agree becase the reasoning behind the mob violence makes a difference. Just like how or why someone has killed a person makes a difference. I liken it to one of my favorite movie comparisons. Conan the Barbarian and Wrath of Khan came out around the same time. The motive in both of these movies was revenge. Yet the movies were created in such a way that the audience cheered on Conan, and booed Khan. Why is that? Because Conan was fighting people who knew they'd attacked others wantonly, and Khan was fighting people who had no idea they had caused him harm.

    You should see the comparison, and why human nature tends that way. Not to say that KKK members or proponents wouldn't feel differently about their own group, or that child molesters might not feel differently about their group. It's all in the perspective.
     
  10. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    From July 2004:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tees/3934089.stm

     

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