Still Missing UK - Bernadette Walker, 17, left parent's car, Peterborough, 21 July 2020 *Arrests* #4

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  1. Kitkat28

    Kitkat28 Well-Known Member

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    This. People think they know how they’d act and what they’d do if they were being abused, but no two victims are the same.

    She must have known; or at least had pretty strong suspicions. I fail to see how any person living in the same house wouldn’t after that amount of time.
     
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  2. Tortoise

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    court finished early today.


    Cambridge Crown Court 1 T20207197
    Sarah Walker
    Scott Walker
    Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 14 Continues - 10:13
    Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 11:13
    Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:45 - 11:16
    Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 14 Continues - 11:48
    Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 12:42
    Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:05 - 12:46
    Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 14:03
    Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 14:20
    Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:30 - 14:27
     
  3. MIdge28

    MIdge28 Well-Known Member

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    Wonder what’s going on?
     
  4. mrazda71

    mrazda71 Human bean

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    From The Law Pages

    'Legal Submissions in the court hearings listing mean that legal technicalities are under discussion either within the court (where the jury may have to be removed) or the chambers. The Prosecution and/or the Defence Counsel will be addressing the judge. Under some circumstances the public may be denied access to the court until the submissions are complete. Outside the court door a sign will make it clear that the court is not open to the public and may say 'in chambers'
     
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  5. Tortoise

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    Those short legal submissions are usually just boring stuff like timetabling the case and witnesses. Legal arguments between the sides usually go on longer, for instance if something is admissible, which the judge then has to decide on.

    If they finished cross-examination of Scott and Sarah's case was going to open it would be usual to adjourn until the next day so that she can prepare. Or it could be that Sarah's barrister requested time this afternoon to prepare for cross-examination of Scott, and they needed time to talk to Sarah first. Just guessing really, hopefully we will find out!
     
  6. MIdge28

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    Thanks Tortoise - I’m going tomorrow so hopefully the trial will resume in the morning. I see it’s a slightly later start tomorrow.
     
  7. Tortoise

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    Just one thing - I wouldn't assume it means tomorrow. If court isn't sitting tomorrow it could mean Monday. Best to phone first.
     
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    Quick question as I asked this before, why is Scott listed as witness 14? That seems strange terminology as he’s on trial
     
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  9. Mammaalli

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    Well it's not looking good for updates. 5 mins out of a week in court, we won't ever get our heads around this.
     
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    I agree. There were a lot of people crammed into one small house Someone must have known surely?
     
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    <modsnip -quoted post removed>

    Hi, I am not the poster you are talking to but I did make a couple of the same points- it appears from the first child SaW had who was removed due to her circumstances there was some indication of vulnerability at least at that time and if it’s correct she had him to a much older man there’s at least that evidence that she has a history of being targeted as vulnerable. The amount of children shes had is also an indicator. I have no idea if this was the case for SaW, but there’s enough circumstantial evidence for me to personally believe she was experiencing DV. None of this is to excuse a woman who’s teenage daughter believed she would be murdered if she disclosed abuse, who is now missing presumed dead - I don’t even think it lessens her culpability here.

    Domestic abuse against pregnant women

    I do believe SaW has done a lot wrong, up to and potentially including murder- but I also believe she may have been abused, if not by ScW then apparently at some point in her adolescence when she had a child by a much older man despite not being able to care for them.

    ETA- @Kitkat28 Thank you for the clarification- I’ve been dead wrong about that since it kicked in and thought it applied retroactively. D’oh
     
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  13. Mammaalli

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    I 've wondered this too. Anyone know ?
     
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    Peoples personalities are multilayered.

    There's not gonna be a straight cut conclusion of someone being fully bad, or fully good
     
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    I was in court today. I'm not home yet. I will report back later. In the meantime, could you let me know what I am not allowed to say? I know I cannot mention children's names. But is there anything else that I can't share?
     
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    Hurrah Helen! Unless they said there are restrictions I think it's ok but someone with better knowledge than me will come along I'm sure.
     
  17. MIdge28

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    Fantastic Helenvic - your head must be spinning - mine was! Quick question are they in court tomorrow? I’m leaving quite early so would be great if you could let me know.
     
  18. Mammaalli

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    Who needs PT when we have our very own Midge28 and Helenvic lol.
     
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    Very grateful for the people going to the public gallery. BW deserves all our care and thoughts about her.
     
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    Court Serve ( and Law Pages earlier post from Tortoise ) says they are, but I would double check to be sure in the morning
     
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