GUILTY UK - Bernadette Walker, 17, left parent's car, Peterborough, 21 July 2020 *Arrests* #5

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  1. SpursGyal

    SpursGyal Well-Known Member

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    Scott Walker was convicted of murder and two counts of perverting the course of justice, relating to knowing or believing she was dead. The jury were not asked to deliver verdicts on the other two perverting the course of justice counts, as they were ‘alternative’ counts.

    BREAKING: Scott Walker found guilty of murdering Bernadette
     


  2. jackal67

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    Me too . IMO she is as guilty as him if not more so
     
  3. MissUnderstood

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    So the charges we are waiting for against SW are the ones knowing that BW was dead? She already pled guilty to the ones related to the phone and social media? Is that right?
     
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  4. Blondiexoxo

    Blondiexoxo Studying Forensic Psychology BSc hons

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    PTCOJ can carry a sentence of up to life in prison, however CPS guidelines recommend between 4- 36 months :eek:

    I hope the seriousness of the crime reflects in the sentence for SaW, being as she’s already pleaded guilty to two counts.
     
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  5. SpursGyal

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    Yes, that’s correct.
     
  6. Tortoise

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    It's a funny one though, because why charge him with believing she was alive? The jury would have to believe there was a possibility she ran away for him to pcoj by claiming she ran away and is alive. Then once they believe he did murder her only knowing she was dead seems relevant, as a duplication of the same charge. I'm not sure if I'm explaining it too well.
     
  7. Tortoise

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    Ah, thanks, that's what I meant, alternative counts. :D
     
  8. Kangsul

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    Yes, its called Helens law, states that killers should be refused parole if they do not reveal the location of their victim's body. The prisoners would remain in prison for the rest of their lives if they refused to co-operate with investigators.
     
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    That's excellent. Thanks
     
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    I think it’s because either way he/they perverted the course of justice. Because even if she did run away their actions after were still punishable. If he was found not guilty of murder, he still would of got prison time for PTCOJ. Kinda looks like a safety net charge to me. If they didn’t charge him with it and the jury found him not guilty of the other accounts he would of walked free today!
     
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    You're right - they've just said the other 2 charges are not relevant for him
     
  12. Tortoise

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    Sentencing will most likely take place on September 10 for both defendants.




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    Stephen Briggs

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    The jurors have returned to their deliberations on those counts. The court is told Scott Walker will not return to the dock today.




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    Stephen Briggs

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    So to sum up what has just happened: Scott Walker guilty of murder Scott Walker guilty of perverting the course of justice x2 (knowing or believing Bernadette was dead) No verdicts taken on the 2 counts Sarah Walker faces. Court can now take a majority verdict on those counts.




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    Sentencing is currently scheduled for September 10 for both defendants. Scott Walker will be given a life sentence when sentencing does occur.
     
  13. Alyce

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    Although that is the purpose of the law. The legislation is not absolute, sadly a parole board can still free a prisoner even if they have not revealed the location should they wish to.
     
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  15. SaintMoore

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    So some of the jury believe Sarah may be innocent of knowing B was dead.
    Interesting.
     
  16. SaintMoore

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    Comments from family on the news reports
     
  17. Tortoise

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    Stephen Briggs

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    While we wait for the final verdicts to come in, I want to give special praise to Bernadette's friends who gave evidence. They should be very proud of themselves. Incredibly mature for such young people - the sort of friends everyone should have.

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    We will have more reaction once the final verdicts are in. There will be no verdicts given between 1pm and 2pm today
     
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    one I missed from earlier





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    Jury given majority direction for counts against Sarah Walker. Means if 10 jurors agree on a count, a verdict can be accepted
     
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    I am so relieved that ScW has been found guilty. Hoping that the jury find SaW guilty of PtCOJ knowing she was dead.
     
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  20. SaintMoore

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    They can only give 2.
    Either one set of 2 or the other set of 2
     
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