Deceased/Not Found UK - Bernadette Walker, 17, left parent's car, Peterborough, 21 July 2020 *Arrests*

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  1. Rosefinch

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    Thank you!
    In answer to your questions,
    ScW posted on Twitter alluding to his Greek marriage certificate in order to obtain a divorce.
    Further up this very long thread, another poster showed that according to the electoral register, SaW had been living in Yorkshire with a man, implied to be the father of the older children. Another poster cited SaW’s own FB (now locked) in which she referenced the end of that relationship and her engagement to ScW.
    Bernadette indicates very plainly that this is her sexual orientation on Instagram.

    I don’t think it’s at all clear how many fathers/step parents are involved with the 10 children or to what extent any of them were present in the kids’ lives. I do think this is potentially relevant; uncertainty about paternity, tensions between step parents and children, related financial issues, especially in the context of a separation, are all potential triggers/flash points for conflict.

    I hope that’s okay and I’m not breaking any rules.
     
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  2. mrazda71

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    DBM
     
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  3. mrazda71

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    Please can you say what leads you to believe that 'the elder kids were doing so much care taking, not able to have their own lives or autonomy' and that their lives were miserable?

    Can you provide links to what pointed you to believe that was the case?
     
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  4. mrazda71

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    This is a perfectly reasonable theory.

    Lots of young girls have crushes on older men.

    I think it's probably not the case this time but no need to make the original poster feel bad for suggesting it.

    I've been on Websleuths a LONG time ... nothing would surprise me any more!
     
  5. mspuurfect

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    I have personal experience of this and it is a possible theory, agreed probably not the case in this but it DOES happen!
     
  6. mspuurfect

    mspuurfect Well-Known Member

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    I agree - I think the kids saw alot of violence and anger in that house and it was re-inacted in alot of their videos (know I can't post links here) JMO though
     
  7. moody_chicago

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    There are no links and no proof. It’s just a theory and my own opinion. Just because there’s so many children, and a handful with disabilities. It’s totally based on nothing other than gut feels.
     
  8. moody_chicago

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    oh I agree that it definitely happens. When I was a teenager I thought older guys and grown men were the bees knees. I had no idea how problematic that is and it got me into trouble. I didn’t mean to shame the poster.
     
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    I notice on her IG, there were several people saying they liked her look and asking her to contact them for a link up, presumably a fashion photo shoot.

    Now most of these, when done by professionals, are perfectly legit. But there are always the sleezy ones.

    Anyone considered another angle that she might have gone off to meet one of these, and something happened?

    Of course, we don't know what the police have on the parents to suspect them, but must be strong - and ruling out theory above.

    Also, noticed by chance that two or three of the individuals she had recently photographed herself, have removed themselves from IG. Coincidence?
     
  10. mspuurfect

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    I noticed that too but I can't see it just beacuse of the murder charges - perhaps thats where SaW friends are thinking there has been a kidnap? I think the info and evidence they have will be pretty much solid (apart from the body) :-( IMO

    The photographers that have deleted their accounts may just not want to get involved in which will be sure to be a major trial JMO
     
  11. MissUnderstood

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    I say “jump in the car”. I tell my kids to “jump into bed”. I’m still not sure how BW left the vehicle, of her own accord or??!!!
    Moo
     
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    IMO ScW and SaW think they have still got away with this as poor BW body not found, I can not see them admitting they have done this or revealing where that young, beautiful and talented daughter is as they think at the least it will lessen the sentence (in their minds anyway - no body no crime) - I am still hoping every day Berni will be found to bring proper justice to her and closure to not only the family/friends but LE and all those involved.
     
  13. mspuurfect

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    David Hasselhoff even wrote a song about it (cringe about to go to sleep with that in my head now)! I wouldn't place anything on the jump out/get out car thing IMO
     
  14. MsMiniSleuth

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    @mspuurfect no, not photographers. People - the same ones she had used a lot, so presumably friends? - she had taken photos of and that she had put on her IG.
     
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    I'm just not convinced these friends will have anything to do with this but thats just my gut instinct, will need to look over her IG again - your right I do remember a few ppl commenting asking for a link up - do you think they're involved? Perhaps thats why SaW friends are convinced of a kidnap?
     
  16. mrazda71

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    Sarah's loved ones are suggesting a kidnap because they cannot bring themselves to believe that their friend or family member is capable of what she's been charged with.

    It's easier for them to imagine some elaborate kidnap plot or even alien abduction (not a serious suggestion) than allow themselves to think what if she is guilty as charged.

    It's basic psychology, if they were to allow themselves to believe that Sarah has done this then the spotlight also turns to them ... 'how could I have been close to someone who would do this', 'could I have prevented it', 'why didn't I notice what was going on' etc ...

    Regarding comments and accounts disappearing from social media - every journalist and oddball with no boundaries will be contacting anyone on the alleged perpetrators and victims social media.
    From experience (my daughter was college friends with Georgia Williams (murdered by Jamie Reynolds) and has been at the same venues as the murderer. Journalists will spam every contact they can find for gossip.
     
  17. Alyce

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    Re the jumped out of car phrase

    Not wanting to turn this into a major debate, but I think the initial comments made regarding the unusual wording were based on these earlier msm reports -

    They had reportedly told police that they last saw her on July 18 when she ran out of their car.

    Ran out of seemed such an odd way to phrase it ( to me anyway ) - whereas, jumped out, which has been used in later msm reports, sounds fine.
     
  18. Sarahlou

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    Jumped, ran.... I don't think she left the car alive. I wouldn't believe a word her parents say.
     
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    Because Bernadette is the victim in this situation, and it smacks of victim blaming to start painting her as “trying to get in a relationship” with her stepfather. I wouldn’t want my 17 year old daughter being talked about like that after her disappearance, would you?
     
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  20. MsMiniSleuth

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    Just noting it, that's all. Like I said before, until we know what evidence there is the police have on the parents, everything is just speculation and looking left of centre.
     
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