UK - Blake, 14 & Tristan Barrass, 13, dead, 4 hospitalized, Sheffield, May 2019 *Arrests*

Discussion in 'Crimes-Spotlight on Children' started by lizziginne, May 24, 2019.

  1. Plod

    Plod Well-Known Member

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    I had a colleague who was a magistrate and he used be on a weekend and evening rota for that, which meant the police came round to his house and gave him an update on evidence and future work to be done. I don’t think he ever refused, but he could ask them for more justification.
     
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  2. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    What did I miss? I thought that they had been charged already?
    Him with murder, her with murder and attempted murder.
    Why the concern about how long they can be held without charges if they've been charged?
     
  3. Sarahlou

    Sarahlou Well-Known Member

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    You've not missed anything. They have been charged. That was just a carried on discussion from before they were charged.
     
  4. Angleterre

    Angleterre Well-Known Member

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    That’s correct yes but it’s preferable to try and go to see the Magistrate in court where possible
     
  5. littlegreen

    littlegreen Well-Known Member

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    I saw a side-by-side photo of the murdered boys and BM and he looks strikingly like them, especially the older one. (I’m on my phone but a simple google search did the trick for me.)
     
  6. Cherwell

    Cherwell Ice Cream

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    He is their uncle, so a family resemblance is natural anyway.
     
  7. Legally Bland

    Legally Bland Well-Known Member

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    Blake should have been turning 15 today.
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    A church vigil has been held for two teenage boys allegedly murdered by their mother in Sheffield.A church vigil has been held for two teenage boys allegedly murdered by their mother in Sheffield.

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    Dozens of people joined the vigil at the church on Bellhouse Road, where candles were lit for the boys.

    Dawn Johnson, whose children played with Blake and Tristan, said: "They were just absolutely lovely, full of life.

    "I'm here to join everyone else and remember the boys and to help the children come to terms with what has happened."

    Vigil for boys killed in Sheffield
     
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  8. Candidateforwax

    Candidateforwax Well-Known Member

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    I had no idea it was so close to Blake's birthday! Those poor boys.
     
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  9. Bootlace15

    Bootlace15 Well-Known Member

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    Me either,gosh how awful, bet he was looking forward to his big day. Surprised there wasn't more of a turn out to be honest given the outcry in Sheffield. Such a tragic story although feel we've only read the tragic blurb...
     
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  10. Mellowmelly

    Mellowmelly Well-Known Member

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    Happy birthday Blake, I hope his murderers have been haunted today !
     
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  11. neteditor

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    Inquests have been opened into the deaths of two teenage boys who died after police were called to a house in Sheffield.

    Tristen and Blake Barrass, aged 13 and 14, died in hospital after officers had been to a semi-detached house in the Shiregreen area of the city on 24 May.

    Inquest opens into boys' deaths
     
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  12. Mellowmelly

    Mellowmelly Well-Known Member

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    Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question but why are they having an inquest ? I thought it would just go to trial seen as though the mother and uncle have been charged with murder. I'm not clued up on legal proceedings, TIA.
     
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  13. Joolz1975

    Joolz1975 Well-Known Member

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    I think an inquest is always held when a death is not caused by illness (probably not as simple as that).

    It will be adjourned pending outcome of trial as I think the criminal investigation always takes priority.
     
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  14. Mellowmelly

    Mellowmelly Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for enlightening me, I always thought inquests were just for accidental, non homicidal deaths.
     
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  15. neteditor

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    In England and Wales an inquest is always held in the case of a sudden unexplained death, an accident, or a death in police or prison custody. (Rules are slightly different in Scotland).

    Usually, the inquest is opened within a short space of time, a week or two, and then adjourned until evidence is gathered for the coroner. Some inquests will be held in front of juries but most are not.

    Where criminal proceedings are taking place, the inquest will always be adjourned until after those have been completed.

    An inquest is only to determine the cause of death, not who is responsible for it.
     
  16. Mellowmelly

    Mellowmelly Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, this is helpful to know.
     
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  17. Bampot

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    I'm just catching up as been away. That's really sad, the times of death. The nurses and doctors must have really tried hard to save them.
     
  18. Cherwell

    Cherwell Ice Cream

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    To clarify, that's "cause" in the broad sense, isn't it? I mean accident, murder, natural causes etc, rather than the actual physical cause which is determined by a pathologist?

    What is sometimes confusing is that in the USA a pathologist seems to be called a coroner :confused:
     
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  19. neteditor

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    There's a good explanation on wikipedia if anyone wants to read more in-depth:

    Inquests in England and Wales - Wikipedia
     
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  20. Rosegold68

    Rosegold68 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing new yet on this case

    Hope surviving children are doing well
     

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