UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #13

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  1. Popejohn3

    Popejohn3 Well-Known Member

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    At about 1 pm yet her phone was switched off at 12.10 pm
    Obviously the story of a bag plus contents being seen at the uni. Grounds must have come from a very unreliable witness if true that is so the time has to be taken with a pinch of salt too.
    Did this person decide to turn the phone off and decided to keep it ?
     
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    I think that 1 pm time came from the NH staff... and it’s when they were told about it ... second hand information.
     
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    Has a certain person ever clarified why they chose to use the phrase “ dead before she hit the ground “
    When talking about their best friend CL.

    has this ever been followed up?
     
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    Has a certain person ever clarified why they chose to use the phrase “ dead before she hit the ground “
    When talking about their best friend CL.

    has this ever been followed up?
     
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    I think where perps get caught out is when they deviate from their normal rat runs - so disposal may of happened on a perps way home
     
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    Not much room for manoeuvre if the killer lives nearby then
     
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    yes and no. Yes if you want to prove a case - though that’s in the hands of the police - always will be. No as Sleuths we can use probability as a tool. And I would start on Friday 13th race day and see what you can come up with from there.
     
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    Depends on what they did with the evidence - the river is close by - you could leave your phone at home and drive to a suitable location - if it’s rural it’s unlikely to be covered by cctv. May be somewhere you walk the dog. I think if it’s happened in an explosive way the perp may have considered killing before and what they would do with the evidence.
     
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    @Blonderabbit maybe she met her mystery boyfriend on the 13th
     
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    I feel they favour a morning event as in via her journey to work. Which makes sense, though it leaves loose ends - why did her phone remain in Heworth during the morning, what was the activity about around her house at 510am on the 19th- 5.42 silver focus time, then later at 6.50ish . If you killed her in a car on the way to work - why return to her property? What was in there and why stumble in front of cameras.
     
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    Perhaps - though Jen was with her most of the day in the nags and Suzy looked on so I’d guess they’d have an idea?
     
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    How close is the river ? And did the police dogs started picking up her scent from her home or were they taken to a different start point ?
     
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    Claudias bike was in the kitchen, I presume it would be easier through the back door rather then the front.
     
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    Rear entries can be useful if you want to avoid someone.
     
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    By many on WS! I believe this phrase was used in the C5 documentary aired in Dec 2019. There was discussion on WS but then the pandemic struck so sadly there was little exposure of Claudia's case in 2020. Let's hope PL's death will generate renewed momentum by people who can make a difference. There are some excellent journalists out there with good knowledge of the case and the complex web of characters and relationships in the case.
     
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    I’m guessing the “killer” wasn’t a serial killer or psychopath so wouldn’t be interested in trophies,

    therefore is it safe to surmise the body and belongings would have been disposed of at the same time and in the same place -

    was the phone turned off to save any possibility of the body been located -

    if so the body wasn’t disposed of immediately after death, which gives credence to the supposition that it may have been disposed of later that day, possibly on someone’s way home?
     
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    Claudia's car was parked behind her house before it went to the garage for repairs. That could be a good reason to use the back door instead of the front.
     
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    Keeping her bicycle at the rear of the property would be normal - it’s a bit tight at get front door - that’s where she keeps her slippers
     
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    Or did they go home to Acomb and then travel north to a rural location for disposal realising her phone was in a footwell or still turned on. I think the reason it wasn’t smashed and calmly turned off is it could be used to send the cops on a goose chase to far away lands if need be
     
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    The river isn't too far away, but it is the River Foss as it runs through Layerthorpe, and its really not that deep at all in that area, so putting a body in there would just be daft. There is Tang Hall beck nearby, but again it isn't deep and I am sure I read an article that said police were searching there.

    There are allotments not too far away. I'm not sure if remember reading if they were searched or if any of the POI had any sort of connection to them?
     
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