UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #15

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  1. Pinkizzy

    Pinkizzy Well-Known Member

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    NYP will know the man with a rucksack because Claudia's phone records can be traced by her provider. Unless she called him with her second phone
     
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    Probably one of the Kray twins ;)
     
  3. Pinkizzy

    Pinkizzy Well-Known Member

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    I don't think we can discuss him on here coz he isn't a suspect
     
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    Dead before she hit the floor?
     
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    It is strange, but we know JK was working in the nags - I have to believe alleywayman was fearful of being recognised and becoming a talking point in the nags.
     
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    Possibly but the whole back alley thing, the pub being empty, possible things going on either known or unknown. JMO MOO Edit: forgot to add also the fact people have mentioned the CCTV was turned off or broken in the car park around that period.
     
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    Alleyway man was probably knocking on her door then went to check back of house and he returned with the intention of knocking again but did not want anyone to witness it
     
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    But Alley man and white coat person arrived together imo. It is too much of a coincidence for them both to appear on a short segment of cctv, on the evening and morning footage x
     
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    Can you identify either foxy?
     
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    If they arrived together ( and know each other ) why would Alyman try and avoid him?
    Plus allyman comes from the direction ( knocking on her door?) of her house and he returns there ?
     
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    I agree .. I think they were working together, and were on heworth road for quite some time.
     
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    FromGermany1 Don't like it, but have to wait.

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    Sorry, I don't know the year of the photo, kir!
     
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    Was alleyman avoiding him.. or was he just pausing because light jacket man had told him to wait?
     
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    A fox is a wolf who sends flowers :) However I have understood in archived articles that the release of the second CCTV together with the fingertip search of the alleyway and Information received from a person arrested were all contributing factors resulting in the arrest and 29 hours questioning of the first 1/4 Rogues Gallery ;) x
     
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    Depends on their purpose, did they want to be seen and if to divert, then alleyman was pressing our eye line into Heworth place. And white coat was giving alternatives, what direction was evening route of white Jacket. I believe on Claudias side of Heworth road and morning he is on the Opposite looking up towards shop cctv after and heading down in the direction of the walnut tree. If it was a distraction then I am wondering what vehicle is also present in both Cctv footages, Just like the two persons of Interest o_O Was there a small black car seen on both clips? Need to check again x
     
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    Personally I’m not sure what you are getting at here .But I’m sure these two men ( dark and light ) where not performing for no cctv !
     
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    I thought alleywayman stopped to turn off his ringing phone
     
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    Just what I see. Imo x
     
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    FromGermany1 Don't like it, but have to wait.

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    Although it might be no coincidence, for what should they intentionally have done this: be seen on surveillance at the same time, in the morning and in the evening? Especially, if one of them behaved just like a thief: stopping, when someone (white jacket) crossed the street, looking behind himself, again looking back at the corner? What to make of it? How did it help them (alleyman and white-jacket-man) to lead police on a wrong path (if they did it for that)?
    ETA: Maybe, white-jacket-man went this path regularly for whatever reason and only alleyman had no business there and tried to avoid white-jacket-man, not to be seen twice on that same road at a strange time?
     
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