UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #16

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  1. Jacques Clouseau

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    perhaps it didn’t end, perhaps it continued without the 5th person knowing.
    My speculation of course
     
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  2. Jacques Clouseau

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    means, motive and opportunity. ;)
     
  3. Jacques Clouseau

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    some of locals may not be telling the truth or they may not have been told the whole truth or they may be being told what to say….
     
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    You are not alone in these thoughts. JMO MOO
     
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    Or....the 5th person saw some 'footage' then had proof of 4th person. JMO MOO
     
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    I've said before that while the circumstantial evidence points to something like this, all versions of the possible motive are odd!

    In the scenario below, the ruthlessness of 'the four' in efficiently making this happen is extraordinary, combined with a medieval rural morality, whereby cheating males are forgiven, and cheating females stoned to death! And an omerta-like silence of decades afterwards.

    But I don't rule it out. All possible motives for this are weird - because the trigger is likely to have been an illicit relationship, and the outcome (murder) so viciously severe. A bout of uncontrolled rage could connect those particular two dots, but then why would 3 or 4 other people take such huge risks to protect the rager?

     
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    I agree with you vixey, about the timing being. connected with pls death...fear ill be mumbling not necessarily again in my sleep tonight.

    of course, if it was to protect pl from being hurt, there's still her. mother to think off
    its a long shot, but. perhaps its attempt to hide the identity of the culprit....maybe pl would instantly associate this area with someone or a group of people
     
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    Your post triggered a thought: a collaborative cover up is more understandable if the death was manslaughter, or presented to the others as such. Someone, angry at CL, pushes her and she hits her head and dies. Just a speculative idea, not sure I’m convinced by it myself!
     
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    Do they sell Vienetta’s in the Costcutter on Heworth Road?
     
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    I also wondered about a sinister meeting of the group at some point along the lines of "This time she's gone too far and we have to make it stop once and for all."

     
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    The "intervention gone wrong" theory.
     
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    Now or in 2009?
     
  13. Jacques Clouseau

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    I can pop in if you like, probably tomorrow now ;)
     
  14. shadwell

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    Or pitched as a self defence/accident combo. Though in such a portrayal there would need to be an 'additional factor' which would persuade any potential accomplices that the events surrounding the death could not be satisfactorily explained to police as such.
     
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    this would have to happen after Claudia called her mother though.
    I’m going more on the lines of “crime of passion” (jealousy) covered up by the others.

    why cover it up? Perhaps to obligate the 5th person for the rest of their lives. Young 5th person, older one of 4 ……
     
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    As they drain the lakes, I feel it will be days rather than weeks until they have what their looking for. I hope this time answers come for Claudia. It is about time
     
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    Or perhaps 5th started as a cover ! Perhaps never did or has existed. Perhaps the male is still married and happy x
     
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    n I ask if the sixth person knows the 5th person is responsible IMO ?
     
  20. Jacques Clouseau

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    Police have often talked about relationships potentially breaking down in the future.

    I think once the body is found THEN you have a murder to solve. Then the unsavoury characters who are protecting each other will all start an exercise in CYA. At that point truths will come out as well as more lies.
     
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