UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #19

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  1. Shiressleuth

    Shiressleuth Former Member

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    It's all bs and bollox. At the very minimum it is negligence.
     


  2. ChuckieD

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    Not for me. Drunk people do stupid things.

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  3. jaam2017

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    Im soo gutted just gutted, this was always my belief and nothing else ever made sense to me, just wondering, if when Corrie went into back lorry, cud he not have awoken? Got out or would the truck have caused a fatality its self?..

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  4. TheTruthWillOut

    TheTruthWillOut Well-Known Member

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    Is it not a bit weird that HS, a Traffic Dispatcher, was the one arrested if this was an admin/accounts error? He wouldn't be responsible for that would he? Also if Biffa didn't charge by, and therefore check, weight then why was so much made of that?

    I fear a lot of questions aren't going to get answers.
     
  5. Coach

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    I'm assuming it was the bin with cardboard in it, the bin would have been clean and dry. It makes me wonder - with all the people that have gone missing over the years that have never been found, this could have happened countless times. The bins should be locked.
     
  6. Ironside

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    The drop from the bin into the lorry would be quite high. He may have been fatally injured had he fell head first.

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  7. Taskforce88

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    Its also one way of disposing a body....
     
  8. Tkjh

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    Yes sounds feasible. So many different versions off everything. Hopefully if body is there it can be found quickly. For families sake
     
  9. Hexenb

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    The only thing I can say is what a total c**k up no way should it have took all this time to come to this conclusion how dreadful for the family, no charges against the people who were arrested it was a mistake, a mistake that has took over 5 months to get to this, if the SP shut down that landfill in the early days something was already wrong and there must have been suspicions from the beginning, no forensics anywhere apparently, certain checks supposedly made with the recycling process and C wasn't found the whole case and goings on stinks to me something is not right!
     
  10. Coach

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    Why has it taken them this long to discover that the weight was wrong and how can we be sure it was not a massive cover up? Could the lorry have reversed into him and it was a tragic accident, driver panicked and put him in the bin. I can't get my head round that it has taken this long to discover the weight was not correct..
     
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    This might sound like a stupid question, but how was there no evidence found of him being in the bin when forensics were carried out?
     
  12. Shiressleuth

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    Perhaps they should be see-thru - thats a good idea. There's no excuse if Biffa have missed a 5 feet 10 inch man 4 or 5 times in their processes and I don't buy this latest excuse. It was ruled out forensically by SP and family and they convinced us it wasn't the recycling bin but could be the other bins in SB. So someone admits an admin error and nothing else matters? How can the new weight be proved?
    The next thing we'll hear is that some more cameras weren't working IMO.
     
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    You may well have a very good idea there. Maybe clear perspex/plastic bins could be a way forward in preventing tragedies in these bins from occurring. Certainly worth a try.
     
  14. suzyjackson

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    I'm still a bit unsure of hwo they can be confident that the revised weight is the correct one while at the same saying the original weight was a genuine mistake.

    I don't buy it, either they actually weigh the bins or they don't, if they do what's the process to record this info and why did no-one at Biffa say before now that it could be wrong. I don't believe no one knew it could be wrong, if you're the person who records the weight it's unbelievable to me that you wouldn't mention it could be wrong at any point in the police investigation

    If they don't weigh the bins then they can't be sure of what the correct weight was even now.

    It still doesn't ring true for me
     
  15. Shiressleuth

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    Not a stupid question at all. That should be explained in the next update along with some other explanations fromSP & Biffa hopefully.
     
  16. Shiressleuth

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    And so apparently do waste companies and their employees.
     
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    Occams razor :(
     
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    Occam's razor :(
     
  19. DaveShu

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    Listen, my background is in electronics and actually in measurements of tiny signals where calibration is essential, and I actually spoke to CM's mum and told her, and told her, and told her all of the reasons why the recorded bin weight should NOT be taken as gospel, and that it was probably wrong and I did that weeks and weeks ago.

    When combined with what was known - it was clear that he HAD to have left in the bin truck

    The over-riding message from the overall investigation was - "the machine says X so it must be X".

    Looks like it wasn't X after all, and sadly the whole thing has been drawn on for ages longer than it had to be to the detriment of the family.

    Very sad, but instead of focusing on the "mystery" they should have focused on the obvious FACTS - they'd have come to the solution much earlier.

    If anyone wants a list of the possible reasons the weight recorded by the machine shouldn't have been trusted for future reference / investigations, I'll post a brief summarised checklist that you can use.
     
  20. Shiressleuth

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    Totally agree Hex. How do they know C is in LF anyway? He could have ended up in cardboard/paper bales for export and/or incineration like the poor guy in NZ that was linked earlier today.
     
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