UK - Healthcare worker arrested on suspicion of murder/attempted murder of a number of babies, 2018

Discussion in 'Crimes-Spotlight on Children' started by sleuth777, Jul 3, 2018.

  1. Angleterre

    Angleterre Verified Law Enforcement England

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    The Investigation team must have sufficient evidence for a more than 90% chance of securing/having a realistic chance of a successful prosecution as per CPS charging guidelines. These cases are inextricably linked one would assume and therefore, if I were the SIO , I would be investigating all as one incident and therefore the workload involved in securing sufficient evidence to provide a realistic chance of successful prosecution and certainly sufficient evidence to charge the suspect, is immense . Effectively, you are looking at the investigation of 17 major crimes and one in itself can take up to 2 years to get the evidence together to try to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that a person is guilty in a court of law so multiply that by 17 and you get an idea as to the enormity of the task faced .
     
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  2. AllyBeeUK

    AllyBeeUK Former Member

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    Yes, it will be an enormous task. I gave birth to my child in this hospital (won't bore you with my own experience but it is not good) and I know a few people connected to this case, they've not told me anything and nor would I ask.

    If the evidence is sufficient to charge, could she not be charged with x number of offences and more added later?

    I don't know if I'm surprised at the public reaction or not. There seems to be immense sympathy for her, the outrage is at her being named rather than deceased babies. Of course she is presumed innocent until proven otherwise, however I do wonder how different the reaction might be if she wasn't as pleasant looking. Maybe it wouldn't be, I don't know.
     
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  3. JosieJo

    JosieJo Well-Known Member

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    Had forgotten about these tragic events will be following
     
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  4. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    at some point it seems ridiculous that they re-arrest her every year
    but I suppose they must be uncovering new evidence each time?
    (idk how police force works there with the prosecution)
     
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  5. AllyBeeUK

    AllyBeeUK Former Member

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    Cheshire Police have charged Lucy Letby with 8 counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder.
     
  6. AllyBeeUK

    AllyBeeUK Former Member

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  7. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, I wasn't really expecting that. They must have done their homework to have actually charged her though.
     
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  8. Supernovae

    Supernovae Active Member

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    I notice my link to the Justice Gap article upthread is no longer working, so I thought it might be an opportune moment to post an archived version:

    How to become a convicted serial killer (without killing anyone) - The Justice Gap

     
  9. Sarahlou

    Sarahlou Well-Known Member

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    Yes I agree. Absolutely awful if she is guilty of this.
     
  10. mrazda71

    mrazda71 Human bean

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    She's been charged!

    Goodness me! It's taken some time to bring the charges hasn't it.
     
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  11. CoverMeCagney

    CoverMeCagney Well-Known Member

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    It's Beverley Allitt all over again, chillingly dubbed The Angel Of Death. She murdered 4 babies and attempted to murder/GBH another 9 in 1991.

    She got 13 life sentences with a minimum tariff of 28 years... which must mean she's due for parole relatively soon.

    Beverley Allitt - Wikipedia
     
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  12. AllyBeeUK

    AllyBeeUK Former Member

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    I might be proven wrong, but my sense is that we won't see a trial. I think she will plead diminished responsibility. God rest those little souls.
     
  13. Elgana

    Elgana Well-Known Member

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  14. JosieJo

    JosieJo Well-Known Member

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    So sad for the parents of these little ones ..putting all their trust and faith in people to save them
    With so many cases mentioned..a single person being present at so many is damning ..im wondering if these "additional" cases were the straw that broke the camels back
     
  15. AllyBeeUK

    AllyBeeUK Former Member

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    Lucy Letby will appear at Warrington Magistrates Court tomorrow.
     
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  17. AllyBeeUK

    AllyBeeUK Former Member

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    This feels depressingly familiar to me. If she is guilty, I wonder if the mismanagement of the unit was the reason it wasn't flagged up sooner and could explain the departure of the Chief Exec? Speculation of course.
     
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  18. CoverMeCagney

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    Really sorry you went through a horrible experience at what should have been a joyous time, Ally.
     
  19. Tortoise

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    Pimlipo Well-Known Member

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    Have regularly searched for news on this case over the last couple of years, knowing all the details up to what we know today. And yet when today’s news broke it still really shook me.
    I just can’t fathom it, even more after seeing the accused’s pictures and hearing the snippets from people who know her. What world are we living in
     
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