GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #13

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  1. Salem

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    Here are the last few posts for tracking:

     
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    Why were you stunned by that, Patticake, if you don't mind my asking? :)
     
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    Hi Patticake. Someone also posted a link from the Telegraph yesterday. 2-26-11. I cannot find it now when I do a search on the Telegraph.

    It was referencing the suitcase/sports bag that may have been used to transport her body. Like you I was shocked.
     
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    Shocked by the amount of money or the fact that it was in the newspaper?
     
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    The Mail still perpetuating its careless mistakes. Research has established that GR never worked for HED. They met after JY had gone to work for BDP in Bristol.
     
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    private money private gain isis - Google Search

    Some may say this means nothing just an abbriviation and I guess I know who will be the first to dispute it, but ISIS come on this case is going nowhere. VT will be found guilty take the rap to satisfy the public and Js parents and later found inocent. IMO.
     
  9. aneurin

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    That makes more sense.
     
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    As regards the solution or detection of crimes, I decided to have a look around for some actual evidence (as opposed to relying on what newspapers say) and the rules on what counts as a solved crime can be found in a document entitled 'Home Office Counting Rules For Recorded Crime' - see http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs10/countgeneral10.pdf.

    And so in order for any crime to qualify as 'solved' or detected then (inter alia) all the police have to do is ensure that a "person has been charged or summonsed for the crime (irrespective of any subsequent acquittal at Court)" and that the "evidence supporting the case must be sufficient to pass the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) evidential test"; i.e. that "a jury or bench of magistrates, properly directed in accordance with the law, is more likely than not to convict the defendant of the charge alleged".

    Thus the JY murder already counts as being solved under Hole Office rules - (I was wrong before, mea culpa, we don't have to wait for the trial to begin) - although there do appear to be certain circumstances in which the detection can later be cancelled.
     
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    Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?
     
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    Well, quite. ISiS simply stands for Improving Services in Somerset, which was simply an initiative launched a number of years ago by Somerset County Council and Taunton Deane Borough Council to shift some of their back office functions into the private sector and thus save money, and which eventually led to the establishment of a joint-venture with IBM known as Southwest One (see http://www.southwestone.co.uk/) which now includes Avon and Somerset Police.

    Granted, there may be a number of questions worth asking. Such as, how can the public be assured that Southwest One will actually deliver cost savings etc etc. But for the life of me, I can't see how this effects the investigation of any particular crime that has been committed in the area covered by A&SC.
     
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    kNEW YOU WOULD BE ONE THE FIRST TO DISPUTE THIS, LETS SEE WHAT OTHER REGULARS POSTING ON THIS SITE HAVE TO SAY.
     
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    I'm disputing nothing, I just hadn't the slightest idea what you were on about. You didn't even give a proper link.
     
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    Not the regulars agreeing with your post yet, I see, interesting.
     
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    Dispute what exactly?
     
  17. Cherwell

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    There's nothing to agree or disagree with.

    I merely asked you to elucidate. albeit in a jocular manner. :giggle:
     
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    Why would the Independent Schools' Information Service have anything to do with the case?

    Or do you mean the Institute for Science and International Security?

    Anyone else understand this, 'cos I don't!
     
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    I really don't understand the relevance of any of these posts to the case we are meant to be discussing. Can anybody please enlighten me?
     
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    Me neither
     
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