GUILTY UK - Joanna Yeates, 25, Clifton, Bristol, 17 Dec 2010 #2

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  1. Patticake

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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...nge-at-Clifton-College.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News

    Jo cops search college rifle range

    JO Yeates murder cops today searched an old rifle range at a college close to the flat of the murdered architect.
    The uniformed police officers checked the range on the grounds of Clifton College — next door to Jo's home.

    The 25-year-old's landlord Christopher Griffiths, 65 — who was arrested and bailed on suspicion of Jo's murder — taught at the school.


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  2. naturally suspicious

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    i saw a news thread at lunchtime. from what was written...sky news...it appeared to me that cj is saying to the police....clear me totally or i will use top london lawyer.ie threats/control when his reputation seems in ruins.
    so much better to keep a dignified silence....
     
  3. laurauk1

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    Throughout all of this, with various bits of info coming out bit by bit and CJ being arrested, I don't think there is anything that leads me away from my initial theory as to what happened that I discussed with friends and family. I said that I felt that perhaps it was a neighbour. That she had (as so many have suggested) left the door on the latch. Perhaps she was invited round to her neighbours house and went straight from her flat but couldn't be bothered grabbing her keys so as it was in the same building, she thought it would be OK to leave it like that. Perhaps she rejected his advances or perhaps he had different ideas from what she had. He was upset/angry and...

    I used to live in a building very similar to Jo's. I often would dash out and leave the door on the latch so that I could take the rubbish out or collect post. There were also times when I stopped to speak to neighbours. Perhaps it could be a case of she popped out, ran into a neighbour outside who said 'I have a Christmas card for you come and get it', or 'Did you still want to borrow that book we were talking about the other week'.

    If it is someone you know or feel you know, you tend to let your guard down a little. When I lived in a similar building I lived on the top floor with my BF and there was a guy who lived on the ground floor. He was odd but seemed nice enough, if not a bit too friendly (he would ring our buzzer and odd times of days for example such as midnight mid-week, just for a chat or a drink). There were a couple of times where I ended up just inside his front door for reasons similar to the above. Shortly before we moved out (and in fact one of the reasons we moved out), whilst my boyfriend was abroad on business, he made an inappropriate comment to me. My bf had to raise it with him when he got back as it had upset me a lot and I didn't feel comfortable in my flat and he got very offended and angry at my boyfriend. We didn't speak after that and moved out about 3 months later. I'm not in any way suggesting that this guy was anything more than tactless and inappropriate but when I think about Jo's case and then think about this guy who lived in our building and the fact that I had put myself in a situation where I could be in danger, I can see how Jo's murder possibly happened. It's easy to feel that you know a neighbour even if you have only ever had a few conversations by the letterbox!
     
  4. Nausicaa

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    But was the door still on the latch when boyfriend returned and if not, why not ?
     
  5. ruined detroit

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    There is no way someone like Joanna Yeates would go out and collect the mail wearing socks that weekend in December. It was freezing, the ground was frozen, wet and cold.

    My theory is that she was either murdered by someone who has full access to the flat and was upset during an argument, or it will be a full blown English mystery with half the street under suspicion. I also feel it is a case where prosecution for separate unrelated crimes will come as a result of folk being looked at for Jo's murder.
     
  6. wfgodot

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    Hello ruined detroit, and welcome to WS.
     
  7. laurauk1

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    Yes - I agree that that is odd. That's what I kept coming back to.I wonder if she grabbed a spare key but then presumably Greg would know if that was a possibility and therefore the police would know. I will sometimes grab the spare key if it is easier than routing from my bag.

    Or Greg initially did not notice that the door was on the latch. The door to our house is one where you wouldn't notice it was on straight away although not all doors are like this - my parents doesn't click closed at all so the door tends to blow open if on the latch. If the door had been on the latch however, I can't see why the police wouldn't tell us.

    Or the final option leads me back to CJ - Jo locks herself out, goes to ask CJ for the spare key, something happens, he kills here. But my gut told me that it wasn't him. Not sure if that was just because I was disgusted by the way the media had him guilty before the police even arrested him!
     
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    Latest Guardian offering:

    Joanna Yeates murder: Police 'making steady progress'

    Ah! well, that clears that up.

     
  9. 2goldfish

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    welcome :) are you a metro detroiter? that's my hometown!
     
  10. ruined detroit

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    No lol. I'm an Australian living in England. I watched Requiem for Detroit the other day and it stuck with me.

    Anyway with Jo Yeates. I have worked and played sport with girls like her and they are very organised and stable. I would like to know the condition of her found sock, heels, upper back to know if she were dragged along at all.

    I also reckon there will be porn charges as a result of all these computers being looked at. In England it seems everytime there is a case and people's PC's are looked at child porn charges follow.
     
  11. laurauk1

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    That is a very good point re: porn! It's concerning how often it seems to happen that they look at a computer and it turns out the person is not involved but they end up having child porn. I hope that is not the case in this one but I've noticed it happening a lot as well.
     
  12. Niff

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    Nah, I doubt it. I think it would be protocol to look at a missing person's computer to check there hadn't been previous contact which would indicate where the person may be, or just to check whether they had been conversing with any dodgy 'uns. Remember when they took the computers it was still a missing persons case.
     
  13. naturally suspicious

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    i must comment, as a new entry to this thread, how excellent are the theories and how well-thought out.
    you get the feeling that everyone, as i do, genuinely wants to do their bit to help justice along in order to see jo's killer...s... caught...
    you do feel amongst people who are similar-minded as yourself...in my case retired teacher/one who hates injustice...
     
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    yes...online porn seems to be at the root of so many events nowadays...sad but true as so easily-available...
     
  15. wfgodot

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    Le vice anglais has, historically, meant whips, chains, that sort of thing. Not kiddy porn.

    (Cough-cough.) How'd we get on this topic?
     
  16. wfgodot

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    Count me in. Unemployed teacher/one who hates injustice here.
     
  17. Luna15

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    Great point!! also agree that she would not have gone outside with no shoes, unless someone has confirmed that there is a pair missing?
     
  18. Sgt Jones

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    Yes I agree - if she was abducted whilst she nipped out to get her post and left the door on the latch, this would then have alerted her b/f on his return home and he would have thought it odd that Jo went out and didn't close the door properly.

    He may, on his return, have thought she'd be away for only a few mins leaving the door on latch but when she didn't return then surely he would have got suspicious about her going out and leaving the door on the latch? Maybe it didn't register with him but I'm sure he's told the police if the door was on the latch or not.

    If Jo nipped out and closed the door taking her keys in order to let herself back in, then that doesn't explain how they got back in the flat..

    If she locked herself out, surely the first place she would go to in order to get help would be CJ - after all, he would have a spare key. If he was not in, then another neighbour for help?
     
  19. wfgodot

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    Hear, hear. Exactly. I was set to give much credence to the "nipped out for the mail and was abducted outside" thing, but then I remembered our friend the missing pizza (and box).

    Could be cleared up I suppose if she'd left the door on the latch and the perpetrator(s) were lying in wait when she got back, though.
     
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    See below article for quotes from neighbors
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1342427/Joanna-Yeates-murder-Landlord-Chris-Jefferies-hold-key.html
     
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