UK UK - Leah Croucher, 19, Emerson Valley, Milton Keynes, 14 Feb 2019 #5

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  1. Woodburnbay

    Woodburnbay Well-Known Member

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    She could have been told to meet someone on Valentines night, they gave her a new phone.
     


  2. NorthernSoul

    NorthernSoul Well-Known Member

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    True. But why then the messing about with the other phone?
     
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  3. NorthernSoul

    NorthernSoul Well-Known Member

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    And if they did give her another phone the previous night, it would seem to rule out Leah having been spontaneously abducted; Leah would have had to have been involved in some plans to do something, even if it didn't turn out as she had been led to believe.
     
  4. Woodburnbay

    Woodburnbay Well-Known Member

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    She could have been told to meet someone on Valentines night, they gave her a new phone.
    Agree-Not a spontaneous abduction
     
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  5. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy Well-Known Member

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    I agree and I think this is likely. The phone GPS going off the night before and the incident with the hotel a couple of weeks earlier both point imo to Leah having secrets and plans. I think a random abduction by a stranger and an unexpected abduction by someone in her life who meant her harm are both less likely as a result.

    ETA: What that leaves, as far as I can see, is a planned disappearance that went right (i.e. alive and well); a planned disappearance that went wrong (i.e. murder); or suicide.

    JMO
     
  6. DeadStick

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    I think she’s dead, she was 20 she didn’t need to run away and she wouldn’t have ran away from her family since she chose to live at home and was a homebody. AC stated that they were ‘friends’ and not in a relationship, his silence speaks volumes. If he’s not guilty of her murder he’s guilty of taking advantage of her.
     
  7. lollipop63

    lollipop63 New Member

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    Well if the police had of pulled their fingers out of their arses they would of known by now!
     
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  8. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy Well-Known Member

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    We really don't know that that's true.

    And we really don't know that they don't.

    [BBMx2]
     
  9. Jenesaisquoi

    Jenesaisquoi Well-Known Member

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    I would like to point out that maybe the police don’t have sufficient evidence to do things that we may think they ought to do. Maybe people need to talk to the investigations team, if they can show, for example, that Leah was in a romantic or sexual relationship.
     
  10. BrianJohnson

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    I think she is dead too, nothing points to her being alive still

    No money taken from her bank account, passport still at home, even if she ran away or ran away with help she would still need medical treatment/dental treatment/medication if ill, food, clothes etc

    If alive she would know her brother is dead too because of her going missing, I can’t believe she would not have made contact or sent a card or something
     
  11. SaintGertrude

    SaintGertrude Well-Known Member

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    I am still interested in this person as he was released from prison the same day Leah went missing
    Review into the case of Joseph McCann

    Serial rapist caught in prison with knife made from toothbrush and razor

    It later emerged he was mistakenly freed automatically in February 2019 when halfway through a three-year sentence for burglary and theft.

    I am not sure how to find out which prison he was doing time at but could this one could be a possibility.
    HM Prison Woodhill - Wikipedia

    It appears that in he was residing in Aylesbury in 2019 which is 21 miles away from Milton Keynes (and 14 miles away from Eaton Bray if we are still considering there).
    Joseph McCann (criminal) - Wikipedia
    Quote "At the time of his subsequent offences in April, he was living in Aylesbury".
     
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  12. lollipop63

    lollipop63 New Member

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    That’s true, it’s just so frustrating on how Leah vanished without a trace.
     
  13. Cherwell

    Cherwell Ice Cream

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    I believe she also left an appreciable sum of money in savings. Surely she would have taken that out if it was a voluntary disappearance.
     
  14. tedtink

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    Yes, possibly why she turned her own phone off on the day she went missing. She had picked up a new phone.

    So she couldn't be traced or contacted.

    If it was LC in the car that the witness saw, maybe LC was trying to conceal herself.

    JMO
     
  15. Onetruesaxon

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    I think she was talking to many older men from all over the world . check some of her FB friends.

    So I think now:

    I think she either met someone she trusted and wanted to run away with

    Or she met someone she knew or been taking to and they killed her or took her somewhere and keeping her or killed her and got rid of her

    That's what I'm kinda edging to now...
     
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  16. DeadStick

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    Oh that’s horrible, what an interesting coincidence re the release date very well spotted!!!!In a letter to a relative he detailed wanting to hunt down a ‘clean young girl’.
    Would be interesting to know which top security prison released him in error.
    Brian and Onetrue Saxon & Cherwell I agree entirely re all of her savings going untouched. You don’t not touch those kind of savings if you’re planning to travel. Whoever the man was he was extremely coercive to have her turn her location services off. She might have been enjoying meeting a few older men and the attention they were giving her but that doesn’t mean she wanted to run away with any of them!!!!Quite the contrary she had tried to be discreet about it to her family by lying probably because she knew they would be worried for her. Nobody wants to see their little girl with a gangster and she was being mindful to keep that private from them because she LOVED her family!!!!

     
  17. JuicyLucy

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    BBM

    Is this really true? I've never heard it said before. If she was chatting to a lot of guys online, that would be a valid investigative avenue imo. (And, if true, it leaves me even more bemused by the undue emphasis on X.)
     
  18. SaintGertrude

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    Interesting to note that when he was eventually arrested in May 2019 he was using a black Fiat Punto car. Fugitive accused of raping three women ‘arrested up a tree' | Daily Mail Online

    A witness account from someone who thinks they saw Leah being abducted mentions a shiny black car.
    Sighting of mysterious man 'hiding' female in car emerges on the day Leah Croucher disappeared in Milton Keynes
     
  19. DeadStick

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    HF has 3 different accounts from what could tell on FB
     
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  20. WiseOwl

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    JM was released from prison the same morning as Leah disappeared.

    He was due to report to a Probation Office in Buckinghamshire that morning at 9.00. There are several Probation Offices in the Buckinghamshire area but it doesn't state which one he was reporting to.

    Interestingly there are two Probation Office's in Milton Keynes.

    One of them is listed as being at 1 Haddon, which is just off Watling Street.

    If you are coming from the direction of Aylesbury and heading to Haddon then you would almost certainly drive up Watling Street.

    Watling Street runs past the north side of Furzton Lake, near to the Premier Inn.

    On the morning of the 15 February 2019, Leah's phone left the network at 8.34 am - on the north side of Furzton Lake, near to the Premier Inn.

    It would be extremely interesting to know exactly what Probation Office JM reported to that morning.

    This is the review of the JM case, the part about him reporting to a Probation Office is on Page 4, Item 17.

    Review into the case of Joseph McCann
     

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