VERDICT WATCH UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, found deceased, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #24

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  1. JosieJo

    JosieJo Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree he planned the rape once he saw libby ...he didn't take her there knowing he was going to rape and kill as was part of earlier posts with others
     


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    Just been sent a photo from someone in Sheffield. They have got snow again. Whether it's enough to halt proceedings I don't know
     
  3. Newthoughts

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    But if you kill someone whilst raping them does that not still count as murder?
     
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    It's Libby's vulnerable state that makes me not vote for murder. She was so easy to over-power, no match for him, and yet the screams were separated and I don't see what would delay him raping her as soon as he could, within the first 4 minutes of getting her in the park. Yet the screams were heard after that. The screams went on longer than what everyone says would be a rape lasting seconds, or having to last seconds to fit everything in within the whole time.
     
  5. JosieJo

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    Yes ... but that was not the point being discussed at the time
     
  6. JosieJo

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    That a very good point ...how could he rape and simultaneously kill within a couple of minutes when the screams lasted between 4 to 7 minutes
     
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    How do you those screams were from the rape and murder?
     
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    I dont ...its the prosecution case that they are
     
  9. JosieJo

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    Snow no where near as bad in Sheffield as it is in Hull so hopefully jurors will be able to continue their deliberations today updates here

    @sophcorcoran twitter
     
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    Even if they didn't last that long, and 4-7 minutes is a vast over-estimate, it's that they weren't heard until well after he'd have been deep into the park, and I also don't think Libby would have had the energy, in her state, to be screaming that loudly while the physical struggle of rape was happening. Then there is the gaps between screams. IMO
     
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    And in Beresford that leads directly off oak rd
     
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    Looking at the map, Wellesley Ave is in a different area separated by a canal with the area that Oak rd is.
     
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    But Beresford is running long. Do we know the house number?
     
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    10:13
    Snow 'not too bad' in Sheffield

    Our reporter says the snow is not as bad in Sheffield as it has been in Hull.

    The prosecution team and Libby's family are at the court but there is still no word as to whether the jury has made it in and can continue its deliberations.

    Libby Squire murder trial updates as jury out for third day
     
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    @mrjitty - I didn't know the neighbours knew he was offending, has that come up before now?
     
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    'Canal' is very generous. It's a drain. Wellesley Ave is part of the same area, running directly off Beresford Ave.

    Google Maps

    Wellesley is immediately to the left here. Keep clicking forward and you'll be at Oak Rd in seconds.
     
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