Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #10 *ARREST*

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  1. Joolz1975

    Joolz1975 Well-Known Member

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    I think the footage is not as central as we assume because they have the footage from another camera at a better angle.

    I think they let ITV run a heavily (very heavily) edited version of the footage.

    Probably so that the wife, friends and family of PR would see it and recognise him and maybe comply with the investigation.

    It's a way of getting information out there without the police actually getting their hands dirty.

    If the police didn't want that to be shown at all they could have got a court order to stop it...they didn't.

    I'd put my house on the police editing that footage to suit them and telling ITV to broadcast it.
     
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    Joolz1975 Well-Known Member

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    As my previous post.

    Probably a simple reason for the police letting ITV release that footage...they wanted it to be seen (albeit an edited version)
     
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    Have you got footage of CCTV on that junction??

    Wondering if it would have a clear view down Howarth St?
     
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    Imo/i have heard/ i dreamt/ a psychic told me/ I have a theory/ assuming/ etc

    Maybe le had to bring forward the timing of arrest of PR as MSM informed LE they had footage that was going to be released. The spidercam footage was released post-arrest.

    What we need to chew over imho is what scenario lends itself to why, if LE would have knowledge of PR/LS interaction , LE felt the need to delay PR arrest ( and imho would have delayed longer if completely free to). What could be the scenario where the gains of delay outway the dangers of delay ( and what were the gains and dangers?)
     
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    Surveillance
     
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    Ah! While youre not on bike for 45secs.... i know you dont like the relevence but quick Q...how long would you say for a fit 20 something male to run from pond/ buildings/riverbank to main carpark in conditions similar to 31j/1f? Tyia :)
     
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    This looks like a reliable source (?)
     

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    If P is helping her get in the car then maybe he has his hand behind her back to help her get into the vehicle which could explain how her feet goes in first before she sits down.
     
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    This article says he was bailed? I thought he was remanded?
     
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    Atoz The owls are not what they seem.

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    Remanded for the other charges and under investigation for abduction?
     
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    Not sure if much of this requires a response. Just a few rambling thoughts.

    So if this had been a case of kidnap and involved PR (who has now been in custody for more than 3 weeks) and he does not have an accomplice LS would have had to have been left with at least water to have survived this long on her own. In this case the remains will be found eventually (someone will take over where she is or hopefully if PR is released he will be under surveillance and will want to remove any evidence) and would escalate to at least manslaughter.

    Does anyone know how long dna would remain on clothing of someone hidden indoors?
     
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    Well that settles that one.
     
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    For a very long time...as in probably forever.
     
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    ^^^^^THIS ^^^^^

    IMO, this makes the most sense of what we are seeing.
     
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    Well spotted!
     
  18. Atoz

    Atoz The owls are not what they seem.

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    My fear would be that it's an indication they are quite sure she is no longer alive and are hoping that P would lead them to the body. If they thought L was still alive then I would imagine they wouldn't delay an arrest at all.

    That's if your psychic dream is true of course.
     
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    :eek:
     
  20. Joolz1975

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    RE the kidnap v abduction thing.

    It's interesting because in the Sian O'Callaghan investigation they referred to her as kidnapped not abducted also.
     
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