Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #11 *ARREST*

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  1. Newthoughts

    Newthoughts Well-Known Member

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    I'm right with you on the Oak Road footage being important. It is the only thing directly released by LE. As far as I'm aware they are still waiting for the people shown.

    What it's importance could be is beyond me.
     
  2. Newthoughts

    Newthoughts Well-Known Member

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    Depends what he was going to the gym for. If you're interested in fitness you can work really hard. But if you're there just to watch you can do the do the bare minimum just to justify your presence
     
  3. Vermont24

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    I took that as an implicit acknowledgement by LE that, via whatever evidence they have, PR is known to have been in the area at that time. It's fairly isolated, so anybody else in the same area at the same time is naturally worth speaking to. I don't think it suggests that they are involved.
     
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  4. Mollie123

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    Does anyone know which gym he belonged to. Would it be the one at the end of Oak road?
     
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  5. Vermont24

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    It's also common for the dads of young children to put some weight on - looking at my friends, sometimes quite a lot of weight.

    The 'martial arts enthusiast' tag was never really fleshed out, and I can't help but think it was just used by the lower end of the MSM, along with 'Polish butcher', to paint a picture of someone of great physical strength and potential danger. It could be that he simply 'liked' a particular page on SM, rather than physically being a member of a club. Unless I've missed something.
     
  6. Vermont24

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    xercise4less, Clough Road.
     
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    If he was using weights at the gym rather than running machine/rowing machine etc., could that account for him being bulkier? Or was he just bigger as in flabbier? Also, some men at the gym I go to seem to use weight lifting as a showing off thing, they're often looking around to see who's watching them lift heavy weights, hoping to impress others (mostly young women).
     
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  8. PaddyOreally?

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    He could have been on a "bulk" lots of body builders go through bulking and cutting cycles. To put on maximum muscle you need to eat more to be in a calorie surplus. But you also gain fat while on a bulk. You then do a cut to lose the fat you've gained but maintain the muscle.
    My boss does this and every winter he gains weight and starts looking stocky but podgy and then when spring starts he starts a cut and slims down for summer.
    That could explain his weight gain and larger appearance.

    Also someone said about the rapidity of the police and if greybeard called them. For all we know greybeard pulled over and asked her name and so the police would have known someone called Libby was last seen very drunk by the bench.
    I've found loads of wastepd peoplein bad situations and the first thing you say to them is "what's your name mate" and they usually tell you.
     
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  9. S_Holmes

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    In the gym selfie PR appears to be wearing weightlifting gloves, generally only used by people who do strength training, specifically deadlifts as it helps with gripping the bar. If he was more of a strength-focused gym goer then that would potentially explain him being bulkier (a lot of powerlifters and strongmen do look 'fat' to the untrained eye.)
     
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  10. Vermont24

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    Believe me, no serious lifter wears gloves. I've trained for more than half my life, I've managed a gym, I've competed in strength sports, and can say without hesitation that his physical prowess has been overstated by the media to whip up outrage. He's fat.
     
  11. JosieJo

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    I would think if he did go to the police it would have been when publicity started...maybe when it was released that they knew she was at the bench ? I think a senior officer did an appeal outside at the bench ?
     
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  12. JosieJo

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    I would think the exact opposite...I would say the request for the CCTV witnesses suggest the police know exactly where he was up till 2.30 ..as in in oak rd area
     
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  13. Newthoughts

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    I honestly think the rapidity would be down to her friends saying she wasn't in several hours after they'd sent her home in a taxi. It was -5, she was drunk and dressed for clubbing and should have been tucked in in bed. It would ring alarm bells.

    The police specifically asked for grey beard to come forward and he did so. I'd guess he didn't call it in. You'd have to give details for a 101 call.

    I guess he asked was she ok and I'd guess she said something to reassure him. Maybe that her friends would be on a bus or even that she lived nearby and was setting off home. At the end of the day there is only so much you can do. Poor bloke is probably yet another feeling unnecessary guilt.
     
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    Wow. Close to the Oak Road footage. He doesn't seem to travel far
     
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    My thoughts also. I’ve switched between strength training and endurance training over the years. Two very different types of training and in strength there’s a vast difference between stocky & bulking v fat. Even looking at his gym pic he’s podgy, and looking at his wedding pics he’s fat.

    As has also been suggested, there are plenty of people wandering around a gym doing very little in the way of anything meaningful and if fitness was never his primary reason for being there I guess this could explain it.

    But no doubt about it, the grey outfit gym pic (pulled off FB by MSM I think?) which puts him at exercise4less is not recent if his current appearance is anything to go on.
     
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    Is xercise4less open 24hrs?
     
  17. Vermont24

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    No, it's got fairly normal hours.

    Mon-Fri
    6am-10pm

    Sat-Sun
    8am-8pm
     
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    Thank you
     
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  19. Inspecthernightly

    Inspecthernightly Former Member

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    I went to look over half term, (not haging around a school in term time) and i honestly couldnt see one near the cross but your correct it does look like one on google earth
     
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  20. astheworldfallsdown

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    PR could have been telling his wife he was going to the gym to cover his burgling, flashing and winky wrangling escapades. In the wedding pics I've seen he does look chubby rather than bulked.

    Is it possible Libby's friends got worried after not hearing from her that she was home safe and left the nightclub early to go check on her? Or that the boys who saw her get out of the taxi were at the same club and told her friends she didn't go in the house so they went looking for her? I'm sure someone on here said she was reported missing at 3am, that just seems early to be home from a nightclub and realise someone is missing. (Disclaimer, my clubbing days are loooooong over but that's just what I'm going by)
     
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