UK - Logan Williamson, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor*

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  1. Bickles

    Bickles Active Member

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    Thanks for the link. I know it's hearsay but there's a very specific allegation about the 13 year old's actions by someone who appears local.

    I haven't felt able to post anything here in the last few days. Been truly sickened by the information about this beautiful little boy's murder. How I wish social services had been able to remove him from that environment...
     


  2. DC50

    DC50 Active Member

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    It's not just Logan's change in appearance that's noticeable but AW as well. Her early photos with just her and Logan she looks an entirely different person.
     
  3. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Reportedly, JC and AW had been dating for 3 years -- JC wasn't a newcomer to Logan's life but had been around since Logan was 2. JC wasn't jealous, he was a lifetime bully that was probably out of his head last weekend. MOO

    Man, 39, is charged with murdering Logan Mwangi, five | Daily Mail Online
     
  4. Sarahlou

    Sarahlou Well-Known Member

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    If that was the case wouldn't AW have to be one too if the child lived with them?

    I thought the 13 year old is his son anyway?
     
  5. Sooty

    Sooty Well-Known Member

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    do you have a source for the statement ‘….he was a lifetime bully that was probably out of his head last weekend’?

    I am struggling to follow some of the comments on here that are not linking sources directly to their comments. I am sure I am not alone.
     
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  6. altyg

    altyg Active Member

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    I'm confused as well, there is also a wedding photo of her with a another man who isn't JC
     
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  7. Newsjunkiejen

    Newsjunkiejen Former Member

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    This timeline has me confused. I've read on this forum that after the shortlived relationship with Logan's father, she was briefly married to another man, and that this was in 2018/2019.

    I was under the impression that JC appeared on the scene 12-18 months ago, but could be totally wrong.

    JMO
     
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  8. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Respectfully, there is MSM linked source above citing the couple as dating for 3 years and no approved source/links confirming AW's previous relationships.

    Also, JC's character as a bully, etc. was noted as my opinion only (MOO).
     
  9. tedtink

    tedtink Well-Known Member

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    You seem closer to the actual timeline yes.

    The linked article above was from the DM and the quoted line about 'dating for 3 years' was from a 'local', so I wouldn't trust the DM for accurate reporting - They report hearsay.
     
  10. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    To be clear, MOO designates "my opinion only."

    And I stand by my opinion that JC was a vicious bully that ruptured the liver of a helpless child, fractured his collar bone, and worse! Logan did not place himself in the river.
     
  11. ChiefJustice

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    I know you can't judge by looks alone but the 13yo just doesn't look like he had it in him to hurt LW and certainly not to that extent. From what we know of LW injuries, there was no way he wasn't screaming. My opinion is that the 13yo was witness to it as he must have heard and then was either told to say he didn't see/hear anything or maybe was asked to stay and look after the little one while they disposed of the poor boy or was forced to help JC do it. I believe I read that 2 people were seen near the river? JMO
     
  12. Sooty

    Sooty Well-Known Member

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    I understand what MOO means and I agree that to inflict injury upon a defenceless child I too draw the same conclusion about the perpetrator.
    However, you make a very powerful statement about him not being jealous, about him being off his head and about his character over his whole lifetime - it would be helpful if it was referenced as to why you come to that conclusion. Maybe you know him? MOO
     
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  13. Skigh

    Skigh Well-Known Member

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    Looks can be deceptive.
     
  14. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    A carer is anyone, including children and adults who looks after a family member, partner or friend who needs help because of their illness, frailty, disability, a mental health problem or an addiction and cannot cope without their support.

    NHS commissioning » Who is considered a carer?
     
  15. tedtink

    tedtink Well-Known Member

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    Or someone who works in the 'care profession'.
     
  16. Sooty

    Sooty Well-Known Member

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  17. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    No, I do not personally know the accused, but schooled in psychology:

    And bullying always has a very long run. Bullying may begin in childhood, but it continues into adulthood; it is among the most stable of human behavior styles.

    Big Bad Bully
     
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    I'm puzzled by reports that she collapsed when doctors told her that Logan was dead and she then spent 4 hours with him, was she in denial and thought they might have been able to save him, or was it all an act?
     
  19. mspuurfect

    mspuurfect NOTSOPUURFECT

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    I actually disagree with this, over the years I have known many friends who have smoked weed and have found quite the opposite - they are usually very non aggressive and relaxed. If JC was on anything to make him violent then I think cocaine or steroids would be more likely (thats if any drugs were involved at all).

    JMO
     
  20. cocomod

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    Agreed. "Weed"/Marijuana is a relaxing drug vs cocaine/steriods/speed is an upper and makes people more aggressive.
     

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