UK - Logan Williamson, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor*

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  1. nothinonyou

    nothinonyou Well-Known Member

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    Just on the perverting the course of justice charge, Maxine Carr got 3 and a half years when her boyfriend murdered two girls when she lied to the police about her whereabouts. She served just over a year in jail. Just kind of worrying that it seems to be not a serious charge
     
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  2. Cherwell

    Cherwell Ice Cream

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    Ironically that is so, but you can be sure that the actual detectives in the police force will pay close attention to such content, and will look further into it. There's no doubt it can be very valuable to investigations.

    Her marriage is a matter of public record which can easily be verified.
     
  3. Mrs Marple

    Mrs Marple Well-Known Member

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    Well a close family friend said this happened but we don't know if she witnessed it or is going by what she was told by AW.

     
  4. Mrs Marple

    Mrs Marple Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this, l find it hard to believe JC has suddenly behaved like this out of the blue. It does happen of course but l find it unlikely. No one is singing his praises here. They are known for fly tipping and the neighbours said they heard shouting. This behaviour is not out of character for him, imho.
     
  5. Alyce

    Alyce Well-Known Member

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    The trio appeared before Newport Crown Court this afternoon where Judge Michael Fitton QC set a trial date of January 31, 2022.

    The three defendants are next due to appear in court on November 12, 2021 for a plea and trial preparation hearing.



    Trial date set for three charged after death of boy, 5
     
  6. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy Well-Known Member

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    But long-term use of cannabinoids that begins in the teens can have a much more explosive effect on the human brain.

    JMO (I posted a load of links on another thread once but haven't got time right now!)
     
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  7. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    I don't feel like others would reject him. But it would just be a huge weight on his shoulders for him to deal with, in school, with friends, etc. , knowing that his mum was involved in killing his brother.
    And that same weight of grief and shame would be on his aunt and grandparents. So it would be a difficult to grow up surrounded with it. Including visits to jail to see his mom, and her eventual return. How do you process that your Mum helped kill your brother?

    It would be better for him to grow up without all that, in my opinion. We are the adopted parents of 2 grown kids, both of whom are wonderful, happy ,healthy well adjusted, even though they moved on from bio family.
     
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  8. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    You can have an 'open' adoption but can control the amount of 'difficult' info that comes in until the child matures. We had open adoptions with our children and they learned some difficult stuff about their bier family situations but not until they were old enough to process it.

    In the mean time they had letters and pictures from bio family members and they always knew their ethnicity, siblings names etc.
     
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  9. Moll

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    And of course we don't yet know how they will plead at the preliminary hearing in November. If they all plead guilty, there won't be a trial as such in January.
     
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  10. mspuurfect

    mspuurfect NOTSOPUURFECT

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    I am only going by people I knew that had smoked it from teens (men and women), I am not disputing scientific facts. Put it this way though I would rather be dealing with someone a bit stoned than someone drunk or on an upper (or worse both).

    We don't know if anyone in the house was on anything (yet) just hearsay so far, I just wanted to comment my experience of people using cannabis
     
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  11. esthome

    esthome Active Member

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    Normally an older sibling of the age gap they shared, get along with each other with the older one looking out/after the younger one. As such I’m not sure if it was the 13 year old son who’s inflicted the injuries. Also, would the Mum be so willing to cover the death up of her own flesh and blood if it was his son that had killed Logan.
     
  12. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe she would cover if JC held the baby close and told her he'd harm him too if she didn't comply?
    But she was alone in the hospital with social workers and didnt tell the truth then. Where was her baby at that time?
     
  13. RusselSprout

    RusselSprout Well-Known Member

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    She only 'covered' to try and save her own skin. Same reason she didnt call an ambulance or for help hours before. <modsnip>
     
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  14. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    You are probably right.
     
  15. mspuurfect

    mspuurfect NOTSOPUURFECT

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    Sure I read in a news report that JC was left at home looking after the kids after AW went to the hospital, will try to find the news link but pretty certain I read it somewhere?

    Edit to include link:

    Agony of Logan Williamson's mother when doctors said boy, five, could not be saved | Daily Mail Online

    Family friends said they received a phone call on Saturday morning from Logan's distraught mother Angharad Williamson to say he had been taken to the nearby Prince of Wales Hospital in Bridgend.

    She is said to have collapsed when doctors told her Logan could not be saved. Miss Williamson, a full-time mother, attended the hospital while her fiancé Jay Cole, a carer, stayed at home with their other children.
     
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  16. Cherwell

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    I don't think we know what she said or did not say.
     
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  17. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    True, but if she had told them at that time that her bf battered Logan and then dumped him---would she be charged with a cover up now?
     
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  18. Jjwales

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    I do think AW didn’t cause any of Logan’s injuries and according to his ‘auntie’ who has been named in MSM and can be easily found on FB he was always a happy boy with no visible marks. Not defending AW in anyway she’s just as much to blame for letting it happen but I tend to believe this abuse has only occurred in the last few weeks hence the isolating excuse.
    MOO
     
  19. RusselSprout

    RusselSprout Well-Known Member

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    Why didnt she phone an ambulance? There is no excuse for that.
     
  20. Jjwales

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    There’s no excuse for any of it. I’m not defending AW in anyway just saying IMO she didn’t physically cause his injuries or death. She should have phoned the police as soon as anyone touched her child and most certainly phoned a ambulance instead of dumping him in a river. Hopefully she will get a life sentence for what she has done but she’s probably do a few years for PTCOJ and get a cushty new life with a new identity
     

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