UK - Logan Williamson, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor*

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  1. Cherwell

    Cherwell Ice Cream

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    I'll say again, I don't think it's fair to make assumptions. I'm not saying she's a good person, but we shouldn't judge on so little knowledge of the background.

    We know nothing about her relationship with Logan's father, if any. It could have been a one night stand for all we know.
    She met someone and married him, it didn't work out, we don't know why.
    Then she met JC whom she was intending to marry.

    Some people are lucky enough to find their soulmate early in life, but not everyone is so fortunate. I would never blame anyone for trying to find happiness.
     


  2. infinit

    infinit Well-Known Member

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    Yes they can to my understanding. She's in custody, there is no reason for which they are obliged to allow her to attend any event. Even for medical treatment it's at discretion. She'd have to apply for Compassionate temporary release or something similar. It's highly unlikely to be successful for the victim of the crime she's in custody related to IMO, or at least I hope so...
     
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  3. Bluedaisy100

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    But not at the expense of the child. You're obligated to put the child's interest first and not looking for a new "daddy".
     
  4. altyg

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    Yes, in some ways she could have had low esteem and been vulnerable, this could have made her an easy target for a violent controlling man.
     
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  5. Cherwell

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    That doesn't mean a single mother has to live like a nun.
    Yes, indeed. Failed relationships can make a person very needy too,
     
  6. infinit

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    I'm sorry to hear about your DV. I was the child in a DV relationship although the genders were flipped, abuse was also targeted at me. I’m here, 2 suicide attempts later, with a whole host of mental health problems because of it. My dad completely enabled it, covered for her, fobbed professionals off. I hold him as accountable as my mother. He might not have thrown the punches but you’re a sorry excuse of a parent if you don’t protect your child from that.

    Let’s not kid ourselves, regardless of any violence towards her, she wasn’t cuffed to him 24/7. She was an adult; she had a child to protect and she failed in that duty.

    Any sob story can wait until her mitigation in court.

    JMO.
     
  7. RusselSprout

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    There will be reasons, of course, why AW completely failed as a mother and ultimately her bad decisions led to the death of her child, which she tried to cover up to save her own skin. But whatever those reasons are, they don't excuse anything. She completely failed Logan and she is responsible for that. She doesn't deserve any sympathy.
    Edited to add MOO
     
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  9. LucyRocket

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    You'd also think, as they had only just returned from a holiday in Blackpool, there would be holiday pics. Though she didn't seem like a very frequent poster, so maybe not
     
  10. LucyRocket

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    Can it repair itself? I've never heard of such an injury and it sounds vile
     
  11. LucyRocket

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    Also, every time someone brings up that perhaps she was afraid of JC, I think about that TikTok video where she waxes his chest while he is apparently sleeping. I wouldn't have dared do that to my partner, even though I wasn't scared of him. It's not a definitive mitigation, but it's in my mind a contrary to that line of thought.
     
  12. altyg

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    If he didn't actually live there, then the controlling may have been slow and insidious, maybe she didn't realise how bad things were and how violent JC was and the week together on holiday followed by the 10 day isolation period may have brought things to a head and things may have escalated quickly.
     
  13. katydid23

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    And I understand where you are coming from. But once you have a young child, you cannot keep introducing 'father figures' into their lives that come and go so quickly. He had 3 in his short 5 years of life.

    I don't know how long her relationship with Logan['s father was, but he does count as a father figure that he would have some attachment to. Then she married someone, so he got attached and detached, for the 2nd time. And then finally, she started a family with JC.

    I think something was off with this relationship---obviously, considering the brutal outcome. I just wish the 5 yr old had been more of a priority, instead of so quickly trying to go for another father for her son, in such quick succession. JMO
     
  14. Sooty

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    …….
    how do I find that video @LucyRocket ?
     
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  15. infinit

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    Sadly I don't think they have used "extreme pain" lightly. It seems he's died from the liver injury which would likely be from hypovolemic shock from blood loss as he bled internally and he'd have slowly deteriorated as his organs failed. If you were in hospital and there was nothing else they could do, they'd atleast give you the courtesy of some morphine or to induce you into a coma.

    Something that can potentially be fixed with rapid treatment..

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  16. LucyRocket

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    :( I try and hope that he was unconscious in an instant because I can't bear to think of a 5 year old, innocent, child with no understanding of why, dying in this way. I hope they've only described him being in extreme pain to illustrate their prosecution case, and that I'm right :(:(:(:(:(
     
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    Would she not have been facing the charge of causing or allowing the death of a child if she was aware of his injuries, or that he was in extreme pain, and did not seek help?
     
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  18. LucyRocket

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    I'm surprised she hasn't been charged with this offence, and being as she hasn't, the only reason I can think is that BOTH 1. There were no previous documented concerns and 2. It has not yet been possible to prove that she likely knew of the abuse/assault
     
  19. infinit

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    All 3 were originally arrested for murder. They'll have been charged with that they can be based on the evidence they have. That head injury would be a bloody mess. To do what they've done, there is also a clean up that will likely have had to take place.

    I just struggle to see a situation where JC has woken up the 13 year old child who isn't biologically his and they've gone along with this body disposal of their brother with no input from the mother. What 13 year old is going to remain calm with the back of their dead baby brothers head detached from the skull?

    JMO.
     
  20. Sooty

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    I believe that must be why she is facing the PTCOJ charge.
     

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