GUILTY UK - Louise Smith, 16, Havant, Hampshire, 8 May 2020 *Arrest*

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    Louise was living with Mays, says prosecutor
    Prosecutor James Newton-Price says that after falling out with her mother in April, Louise Smith went to live with her aunt, CJ Mays, and Shane Mays, the defendant. They lived together in a one bedroom flat at Ringwood House, in Leigh Park.
     


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    Mays told police Louise had gone to Emsworth
    Police had concerns about the account given by Mays, says the prosecution. In his interview he told police he had dropped Louise off at a recreation ground in Emsworth when she went missing. ‘This was a lie’ says Newton-Price. 'This lie was then repeated to his wife, Louise’s girlfriend and to the police, in great detail.'
     
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    Murder was ‘cruel and brutal’ says prosecution
    Newton-Price says Mays’ killing of Louise was ‘cruel and brutal’, adding that her body was ‘unrecognisable’ when found in Havant Thicket.

    ‘There are grounds to belive that part of the motivation for her murder was sexual,’ he said.
     
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    Another live blog:

    11:01KEY EVENT
    Prosecution case opening
    James Newton-Price QC is now addressing the jury and is opening the case for the prosecution.

    The trial is under way.

    11:25KEY EVENT
    Louise Smith was a 'vulnerable' child
    Mr Newton-Price QC has told the jury:

    Louise Smith was born on August 7 2003. At the age of 16 she disappeared. She disappeared on May 8 and her body was not found for some 13 days.



    The man who killed her was the defendant, Shane Mays.



    The photo that you see of her her was taken about a year before she died, she was about 15 and nine months or so when that photo was taken.



    Louise lived in the Leigh Park area of Havant, her parents were Rebecca Cooper and Bradley Smith.



    Her parents had separated and Louise lived with her mother in the Leigh Park area.​

    Louise had been living with her cousin and her husband, who is the defendant, Shane Mays.

    She had been living there because of a quarrel with her mother.

    Mr Newton-Price described Louise as a "vulnerable" child and said she was taking anti-depressants and suffered with some anxiety.


    11:26ALEX BOYD
    Louise last seen on VE Day
    Louise was last seen on VE Day, May 8, near to the beginning of the first national lockdown.

    She was reported missing at 6.32pm, sparking a large police search.

    Her body was found at 11.45am on May 21, in the Havant Thicket woodland.


    11:32ALEX BOYD
    Shane Mays repeatedly lied about his involvement
    Mr Newton-Price continued:

    Shane Mays told police that he had walked Louise to a recreation ground or a skate park in Emsworth.



    It is almost three miles from her home. He said that he left her there in the early afternoon of that day.



    That was a lie. In fact Shane Mays and Louise Smith had walked to Havant Thicket. That is the large area of woodland.



    And Shane Mays killed her there. He took her mobile phone and he threw it.



    Having emerged from the wood, he was caught on a CCTV camera walking south from the direction of Havant Thicket on the way to his mother's house.​

    He lied to police about his involvement, and was initially arrested alongside his wife on suspicion of kidnap.

    That was before Louise's body was found.


    11:35KEY EVENT
    Louise's body was 'badly burnt' and effort had been made to 'destroy' her body
    The prosecutor said that when police found Louise's body on May 21, it was "badly burnt" and effort had been made to "destroy" it.

    Mr Newton-Price QC labelled it a "cruel and brutal murder", and said her body was "unrecognisable".

    Brutal injuries had been inflicted as her body was "subjected to extreme violence and violation".

    The teenager's body had also been "penetrated in a horrible way".


    11:35ALEX BOYD
    Jury now being talked through locations relating to the case
    The jury are now being shown a map with a number of locations on it, all of which relate to the case.


    Live updates from court as Louise Smith murder trial begins
     
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    Mays ‘threw away Louise’s phone’ claims prosecution
    According to Newton-Price, Mays threw Louise’s phone away after taking her to Havant Thicket.

    He told the court: 'He threw her mobile phone into the woods as he left the scene of the killing.

    ‘He now admits killing Louise, or contributing to her death in some way, but denies murder.’
     
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    Prosecution admits a ‘lack’ of CCTV
    The jury has been told that between Mays’ home in Somborne Drive and Havant Thicket, there are very few CCTV cameras. However, a camera did capture the defendant leaving the thicket via Swanmore Road, on the day Louise went missing.
     
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    David George
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    After falling out with her mother in April, Louise went to live with her aunt, CJ Mays, and the defendant. It was a one-bedroom flat and she slept on a mattress in the living room.
     
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    11:49ALEX BOYD
    Some more information about Louise
    The jury are now being given some more information about Louise Smith.

    The prosecutor says "like any adolescent of age about 16, Louise had rows at home with her mother".

    She left her home with her mother in April, she wanted to spend more time with her boyfriend, Bradley, who was also 16.

    The couple have been described as having an "on and off" relationship.

    Louise stayed with one aunt for a while, before moving in with her other aunt and Shane Mays on April 26.

    Mr Newton-Price QC said that Louise wanted to "assert her independence", but he submits she was "vulnerable" and "impressionable".

    Live updates from court as Louise Smith murder trial begins
     
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    As we suspected a sexual element.

    Sounds like he burnt her body to destroy evidence. Sickening.
     
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    Louise ‘got on’ with her aunt and Shane Mays when she moved in
    Messages from Louise’s phone show that Louise got on ‘very well’ with CJ and Shane Mays, according to the prosecution. One text to CJ told her that she wanted to call the pair ‘mum and dad’, says Newton-Price, but Newton-Price said the happy family ‘did not last very long’.

    Arguments broke out over Louise taking cannabis, seeing her boyfriend and staying out late, he added.
     
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    11:56ALEX BOYD
    There were some tensions leading up to Louise's disappearance
    On May 7, Louise texted somebody and said that she needed to leave where she was living with her aunt and Mr Mays.

    She described the issue as a "long story" but added: "They are just vile."

    Louise told another friend that she "cannot stand" living with the two adults, and that they "treated her like a child".

    Live updates from court as Louise Smith murder trial begins
     
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    Bit more about Louise's injuries :(



    ‘Her body had been subjected to extreme violence and violation.

    ‘This included repeated and heavy blows to her head.

    ‘The bones and the structure of her face had been shattered.

    ‘Her jawbone was completely detached from the skull. Her body had also been penetrated in a terrible way.’

    He added: ‘There are grounds to believe that part of the motivation for her murder was sexual.’

    Jurors told man 'brutally' killed Louise Smith before burning 'violated' body
     
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    Louise was ‘with a friend’ on May 7
    The day before Louise went missing, she went out with a friend, says the prosecution. Via Snapchat, the teenager had been talking about how life with CJ and Shane Mays had deteriorated, and made plans to move in with her friend instead.
     
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    David George
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    The day before she went missing, Louise went out with a friend, and made plans to move in with her after her relationship with CJ and Shane Mays deteriorated. CJ tried to call her 51 times that day, but had no response.
     
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    I wonder if Cjay will take the stand?
     
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    CJ Mays made 51 attempts to contact Louise while she was out on that day, after hearing from others that the teenager was wanting to move out.

    Louise and CJ had an exchange over text at around 2.34pm on May 7, in which Louise said again that she didn't want to come back to Ringwood House.

    CJ asked Louise to come back, and eventually the pair made up and Louise did return back that night.

    Break in proceedings
    Mrs Justice May DBE has signalled that now is a good time to have a short 10-minute break in proceedings.

    Live updates from court as Louise Smith murder trial begins
     

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