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Prosecution evidence, April 5th 2023, Day 82 - Tweets https://twitter.com/MrDanDonoghue
Child Q
Lucy Letby's murder trial continues at Manchester Crown Court this morning (couldn't sit yesterday due to a juror illness). We'll be hearing evidence in relation to Child Q, who the Crown say Ms Letby attacked in late June 2016. The nurse denies all charges
Ms Letby is accused of attempting to murder the infant on 25 June 2016 after allegedly murdering two triplets, Child O and P, on the previous two days.
Unnamed Doctor (Doctor A)
First in the witness box today is a doctor, who can't be named for legal reasons. He worked the 25 June day shift
The medic was called to the neonatal unit shortly after 9am to treat Child Q after he vomited and needed breathing support. The court previously heard that Ms Letby was Child Q's designated nurse that day. Ms Letby was caring for another baby when Child Q desaturated
The doctor's notes record that after an hour Child Q's sats had improved and was no longer needing as intensive breathing support
His notes from that morning state 'presumed sepsis with secondary jaundice' for the cause of Child Q's collapse
Child Q made a reasonable recovery through the day, but by 19:20 he was described as 'looking tired' and the doctor took the decision to intubate him and place on a ventilator
The following day, Child Q's gases were unsatisfactory and it was suspected that he had necrotising enterocolitis (a serious condition that can affect newborns). He was transferred to Alder Hey where he quickly stabilised - his breathing tube was removed on 27 June
Cross-Examination
Ms Letby's defence lawyer, Ben Myers KC, is now questioning the doctor. He points out that the medic arrived on neonatal unit at 09:17 (Child Q crashed just after 9am). Myers says 'a fair amount of activity had happened already at that point', the doctor agrees
He also agrees that Child Q had a 'rapid' recovery from the collapse
Mr Myers has just asked the doctor to explain to the court, in simple terms, what NEC is and what impact it has on babies
Mr Myers is taking the doctor over messages he sent to Ms Letby in late June/early July in regards to Child O - one of the triplet brothers who died. The court has previously heard that the boy was found with an 'impact' injury to his liver in post-mortem
In the messages, the doctor tells Ms Letby that another doctor on the unit was concerned that Child O's liver injury 'may have been caused by her chest compressions'
He says in those messages to Ms Letby that he spent '20mins in a cubicle going over everything' with the doctor, he says 'CPR was all at fifth rib space between the nipples'
But he says to Mr Myers that he does not have any independent recollection of that resuscitation and that he was managing the airway during it
The defence have previously argued that the liver injury sustained by Child O was a result of CPR - this is something that was rejected by expert pathologist Dr Andreas Marnerides, who reviewed the case, last week
Consultant Dr John Gibbs
We're back after lunch. Consultant paediatrician Dr John Gibbs is up in the witness box next. The court has previously heard that after the deaths of triplet brothers Child O and P on the 23 and 24 June, Dr Gibbs had become 'concerned' about Ms Letby's presence on the unit.
Dr Gibbs is asked about a message, Ms Letby sent to a doctor - who cannot be named - on the night of 25 June. Letby asks if she should be 'worried' about what Dr Gibbs had been asking nurses on the unit that day
From his recollection, Dr Gibbs tells the court he was asking nurses who was caring for Child Q at the time of his collapse as he had become increasingly concerned about unusual collapses and deaths on the unit. He said he would not normally ask who was looking after a child
Dr Dewi Evans, Prosecution Expert Witness
Medical expert Dr Dewi Evans, who was asked to review the case by Cheshire Police in 2017, is now in the witness box
Dr Evans has said that he believes Child Q's collapse on the morning of 25 June was a result of air and liquid - possibly saline or water - being injected via the NG tube into his stomach. This he says caused Child Q's breathing problems, as it splinted diaphragm
Child Q
Lucy Letby's murder trial continues at Manchester Crown Court this morning (couldn't sit yesterday due to a juror illness). We'll be hearing evidence in relation to Child Q, who the Crown say Ms Letby attacked in late June 2016. The nurse denies all charges
Ms Letby is accused of attempting to murder the infant on 25 June 2016 after allegedly murdering two triplets, Child O and P, on the previous two days.
Unnamed Doctor (Doctor A)
First in the witness box today is a doctor, who can't be named for legal reasons. He worked the 25 June day shift
The medic was called to the neonatal unit shortly after 9am to treat Child Q after he vomited and needed breathing support. The court previously heard that Ms Letby was Child Q's designated nurse that day. Ms Letby was caring for another baby when Child Q desaturated
The doctor's notes record that after an hour Child Q's sats had improved and was no longer needing as intensive breathing support
His notes from that morning state 'presumed sepsis with secondary jaundice' for the cause of Child Q's collapse
Child Q made a reasonable recovery through the day, but by 19:20 he was described as 'looking tired' and the doctor took the decision to intubate him and place on a ventilator
The following day, Child Q's gases were unsatisfactory and it was suspected that he had necrotising enterocolitis (a serious condition that can affect newborns). He was transferred to Alder Hey where he quickly stabilised - his breathing tube was removed on 27 June
Cross-Examination
Ms Letby's defence lawyer, Ben Myers KC, is now questioning the doctor. He points out that the medic arrived on neonatal unit at 09:17 (Child Q crashed just after 9am). Myers says 'a fair amount of activity had happened already at that point', the doctor agrees
He also agrees that Child Q had a 'rapid' recovery from the collapse
Mr Myers has just asked the doctor to explain to the court, in simple terms, what NEC is and what impact it has on babies
Mr Myers is taking the doctor over messages he sent to Ms Letby in late June/early July in regards to Child O - one of the triplet brothers who died. The court has previously heard that the boy was found with an 'impact' injury to his liver in post-mortem
In the messages, the doctor tells Ms Letby that another doctor on the unit was concerned that Child O's liver injury 'may have been caused by her chest compressions'
He says in those messages to Ms Letby that he spent '20mins in a cubicle going over everything' with the doctor, he says 'CPR was all at fifth rib space between the nipples'
But he says to Mr Myers that he does not have any independent recollection of that resuscitation and that he was managing the airway during it
The defence have previously argued that the liver injury sustained by Child O was a result of CPR - this is something that was rejected by expert pathologist Dr Andreas Marnerides, who reviewed the case, last week
Consultant Dr John Gibbs
We're back after lunch. Consultant paediatrician Dr John Gibbs is up in the witness box next. The court has previously heard that after the deaths of triplet brothers Child O and P on the 23 and 24 June, Dr Gibbs had become 'concerned' about Ms Letby's presence on the unit.
Dr Gibbs is asked about a message, Ms Letby sent to a doctor - who cannot be named - on the night of 25 June. Letby asks if she should be 'worried' about what Dr Gibbs had been asking nurses on the unit that day
From his recollection, Dr Gibbs tells the court he was asking nurses who was caring for Child Q at the time of his collapse as he had become increasingly concerned about unusual collapses and deaths on the unit. He said he would not normally ask who was looking after a child
Dr Dewi Evans, Prosecution Expert Witness
Medical expert Dr Dewi Evans, who was asked to review the case by Cheshire Police in 2017, is now in the witness box
Dr Evans has said that he believes Child Q's collapse on the morning of 25 June was a result of air and liquid - possibly saline or water - being injected via the NG tube into his stomach. This he says caused Child Q's breathing problems, as it splinted diaphragm