UK UK - Melanie Hall, 25, Bath, Somerset, 9 June 1996

Discussion in 'Cold Cases' started by wfgodot, Mar 27, 2011.

  1. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Suddenly dawned on me, whilst following the several UK threads (Claudia Lawrence, Joanna Yeates, Sian O'Callaghan) that Melanie Hall, while on occasion mentioned on those threads, did not have a thread here on WS.

    Background:
    FRESH TORMENT FOR PARENTS OF TRAGIC MELANIE HALL
    more:
    Melanie Hall: a mystery which has baffled police (This Is Bristol)

    Melanie's remains were discovered in 2009:
    Bones found by M5 motorway are those of Melanie Hall, missing since 1996 (Sunday Times)

    A man handed himself in to authorities and was arrested:
    Arrested man ruled out of Melanie Hall inquiry (Guardian)

    Other arrests have been made:
    Melanie Hall murder: man arrested (Daily Telegraph)

    Second man arrested over Melanie Hall murder (Daily Telegraph)

    Clues have been supposed:
    Car break-in could be key in Melanie Hall murder probe (This Is Gloucestershire)

    But, so far, no charges have been brought; the case remains, interesting and unsolved.
     
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  3. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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    What a puzzle, and I wonder how long her body had been there. Someone has got away with murder
    I would be curious to know why the two men were arrested and the field searched and what the Dr is doing now
     
  4. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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  5. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    I'd be interested to know how seriously they took the doctor as a possible suspect at the time of her disappearance.
     
  6. Cherwell

    Cherwell Active Member

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    I would bet that he was their prime suspect, for a number of reasons.
     
  7. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Yes, agreed, he would have needed to have been. I'm not familiar enough with the case to know what at last caused them to look elsewhere.
     
  8. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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    I feel terrible saying this but, could he not be seen as a suspect because he is a respectable doctors, the set of circumstances are troubling to me
     
  9. whiterum

    whiterum New Member

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    Halliwell had access to a Transit in the Nineties.

    Had posted this before on SO site but it might be more relevant here. Also the blue rope that bound Melanie is very common among builders, it's purchased in big spools in the trade.
     
  10. Cherwell

    Cherwell Active Member

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    By that logic Harold Shipman would still be busy among us ....

    No, I don't think the police are at all swayed by status in any form. Respectable, educated, well-qualified, professional: - if they are in the frame for any reason (motive, means, opportunity), they will be looked at for sure.
     
  11. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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    But they were obliged to investigate Shipman as he had been reported by a pharmacist if I remember correctly.
    Personally I don't get a hinky feeling about the doctor in this case, just throwing it out there.

    I am a RN and years ago many doctors would increase the morphine dose of a moribund patient and they would die, it was seen as a kindness.
    However no doctor that I knew ever benefited in any way by their actions as HS did
     
  12. Cherwell

    Cherwell Active Member

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    I just used Shipman as an example because he was a doctor, so let's not go off on his tangent or into mercy-killing.

    It was really the second part of my post that carried my point:

    No, I don't think the police are at all swayed by status in any form. Respectable, educated, well-qualified, professional: - if they are in the frame for any reason (motive, means, opportunity), they will be looked at for sure.
     
  13. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Hm. An interesting point of contention here. While they may be "in the frame," one wonders just how closely they are looked at, those of high achievement or elevated social status, how closely they are grilled, those who have the means to afford top legal counsel.

    All things being unequal, I would assume they might enjoy an easier time of it than one who has not, and cannot.
     
  14. Cherwell

    Cherwell Active Member

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    Well, we could consider the two people arrested in the Joanna Yeates murder case. Both intelligent, respectable, well-qualified, one a 'pillar of the community' etc. Didn't deter the police from pulling them in, did it?

    As for "elevated social status", I believe they're still anxious to interview Lord Lucan ;)
     
  15. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Making use of selected cases may obscure that which prevails in a majority of others.

    Lord Lucan is missing! lol. I love that song, especially the Black Box Recorder version (Dodgems original good too).

    We need a Lord Lucan thread.
     
  16. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Here's a Daily Telegraph timeline covering the period 09 June 1996 - 07 October 2009.
    I can't find much about these arrests other than they were bailed after "farmland at Inglesbatch, near Bath is searched, as is a charity shop’s cellars in Chatham Row" (Wiltshire Times) and were later released from charges.

    In October 2009 a man was arrested after apparently confessing to the crime shortly after the bones were identified:
    Here's another timeline, from BBC, extending the time period to 01 July 2010, when....
    This man had been questioned in the case before, in its immediate aftermath:
    He also was released from charges.

    Finally, a fifth man was arrested in late August 2010:
    He, too, was later released.

    Who were these guys? Why were they suspected? Aside from the man arrested after admitting his guilt (the third arrest) and soon after released from charges, it would still seem they all must be considered as persons of interest, although charges have never been brought.
     
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    Christopher Halliwell - who led police to the bodies of Sian O'Callaghan and Rebecca Godden-Edwards - is being kept in mind in Melanie's case:
    http://swns.com/sian-and-becky-murders-wiltshire-police-examine-five-other-cases-061631.html
     
  18. whiterum

    whiterum New Member

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    I wonder what was the source of the information that prompted the police in March 2003 to search underground vaults at a charity shop in Bath and a field at Beaufort Farm, five miles south of Bath. After weeks of painstaking work they came up with nothing, the information was a false alarm.

    The charity shop site was a former taxi rank in 1996, which was only a short walk from the Cadillac Club where MH was last seen sitting alone at 1:10am. Since she had been left on her own, you would expect that she would have walked a few yards to get a taxi to get safely home. I wonder if MH was abducted at that taxi rank.

    The other place also searched in March 2003 was Beaufort Farm, where a field was being extensively searched for MH’s body. It is early 2003 that police have indicated CH murdered RHE and buried her body in Farmland at Baxters Farm.

    Although this proved to be a false alarm you would think the information contained cryptic clues regarding the two murders.
     
  19. Cherwell

    Cherwell Active Member

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    In that case there's not much point pursuing the discussion, if any example I give is going be written off as a 'selected case'. I believe every case is dealt with on its own merits.
     
  20. Redgoblin

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    In relation to the keys this maybe of help:

    A detailed search of the scene revealed the set of three Ford car keys with an identification tag bearing the number T144213.

    Detective Superintendent Mike Courtiour, who is leading the investigation, said it was important that they established whether the keys were linked to the case or that there was an innocent explanation for them being there.

    The keys are to a Ford made in either 1995 or 1996 and are connected together with a black plastic tag.

    The number on the tag is known as a T Code and relates to technical data specific to the keys. The code is unique to a set of keys, but may not necessarily relate to one specific vehicle.

    Det Supt Courtiour said: "It is considered unusual for the red master key to be kept with the other two black vehicle keys as it would be red key that would be used as a template from which others would be cut, in the event of the loss of the other two keys. The red key would also be the one used to reprogramme the immobiliser for the vehicle."

    Police believe the keys could have belonged to a car dealership or a commercial company and because of their appearance think they have been buried in the ground for a considerable period of time.

    Officers have said they want to hear from anyone who has lost a pair of similar keys, had a vehicle stolen together with similar keys, knows someone who has lost such keys, perhaps around the time Melanie went missing, or has information which may connect someone to them.

    Taken from - http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Keys-clue-Melanie-Hall-s-murder/article-1459599-detail/article.html
     
  21. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    The Sun has a go at the "quiz the cabbie" story:

    ‘Murder’ cabbie’s quiz on Melanie
    much more at link above
     

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