UK - Sabina Nessa, 28, found murdered in park, SE London, 18 Sep 2021 *ARREST* #2

Discussion in 'Crimes in the News' started by MsMiniSleuth, Sep 21, 2021.

  1. Skigh

    Skigh Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,849
    Likes Received:
    34,637
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Interesting thoughts about the other 2 men arrested. I had initially thought the men were connected to Sabina,one being the date she was meeting, but if so they would no longer be under investigation.
    I do wonder if the men arrested were seen on cctv near to Sabina 's flat at the time of the murder or connected in some way to the silver car.
     


  2. Dotta

    Dotta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    11,947
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, I have a feeling we havent heard nothing yet. His arrest might be a tip of an iceberg of sth bigger.
    But then, my imagination has nooo limits :)
     
  3. CriticalThinking123

    CriticalThinking123 New Member

    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Hi, first time posting here so not sure if I'm doing it correctly!! His previous convictions will only be announced after conviction for the purposes of sentencing so we won't know until then
     
  4. Kaykedi

    Kaykedi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    550
    Likes Received:
    2,661
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Yes, you are doing it correctly. And, welcome to Websleuths
     
  5. Skigh

    Skigh Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,849
    Likes Received:
    34,637
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Apart from a reported comment from a shopkeeper,who might not have been happy to be interviewed,we have no way of knowing that he did not chat to his girl friend.
     
  6. Dotta

    Dotta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    11,947
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I take your word for it:)
    You know, on the other hand - silence is golden! Listening to sb yapping constantly is very tiresome.
     
    Andieinsyd, Marg from Oz and dotr like this.
  7. KensingtonandChelsea

    KensingtonandChelsea Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    143
    Likes Received:
    1,356
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Welcome to Websleuths! Precons can be admitted as part of evidence during trial if advocates so wish.
     
    Andieinsyd, V347, jackal67 and 4 others like this.
  8. JosieJo

    JosieJo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,704
    Likes Received:
    10,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Fingers crossed they have concrete forensics on him
     
    Andieinsyd, jackal67, dotr and 4 others like this.
  9. Dotta

    Dotta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    11,947
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I have this wild hypothesis.
    Umm...
    The fact that he pled no guilty so soon - might it suggest that cctv man and actual perp are 2 different persons???
    Just asking.
     
  10. Skigh

    Skigh Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,849
    Likes Received:
    34,637
    Trophy Points:
    113
     
    Andieinsyd, dotr, Alyce and 3 others like this.
  11. Skigh

    Skigh Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,849
    Likes Received:
    34,637
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I think you are over thinking things .
     
    Andieinsyd, jackal67, dotr and 9 others like this.
  12. KensingtonandChelsea

    KensingtonandChelsea Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    143
    Likes Received:
    1,356
    Trophy Points:
    93
    The fact that the police charged him with murder means they feel they have enough evidence to sustain such a charge, and that such a charge is in the public interest. They wouldn't charge and take it to trial if they didn't think they had a case which makes it unlikely that Koci Selamaj and the man in the CCTV footage are different people. It's not impossible, there have been cases of getting the wrong man and miscarriages of justice before. But it's just statistically unlikely.
     
  13. squish

    squish Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    433
    Likes Received:
    766
    Trophy Points:
    93
    I wondered why they mentioned that! Are they drawing attention to the appearance of the man with the red reflective object in the CCTV?
     
  14. Dotta

    Dotta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    11,947
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just to clarify - I know that KS is a cctv man.
    I was wondering if he is the murderer.
    But if you claim that Police wouldn't charge him if there wasnt enough evidence, thats OK with me. I was just surprised that he pled so soon. It sounded categorically to me.
     
  15. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    923
    Likes Received:
    6,102
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Undoubtedly. Without saying 'this is the man in the CCTV', which would be prejudicial and put them in contempt of court. (And of course might be incorrect.)
     
    Andieinsyd, jackal67, dotr and 4 others like this.
  16. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    923
    Likes Received:
    6,102
    Trophy Points:
    93
    He hasn't though. His legal representative (who probably doesn't know anything much about him and is only very hurriedly familiar with the detail of the charge) has indicated that he's going to plead NG so that the matter can be sent up to the crown court and everyone can then have time to prepare their side of the case.

    At any point before the formal plea hearing, and again in the run-up to the trial itself, he may decide (or be advised) to plead guilty after all. I don't know for sure, but, just from taking an interest in criminal proceedings, I'm guessing that the vast majority of defendants plead NG at this stage, because, why not? All it costs them is time that can be used for assessing what their defence strategy options are.
     
  17. Dotta

    Dotta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    11,947
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thanks:)
     
  18. SaintGertrude

    SaintGertrude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    939
    Likes Received:
    2,658
    Trophy Points:
    93
    We are sleuths so will be checking any court records :cool:
     
  19. SaintGertrude

    SaintGertrude Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    939
    Likes Received:
    2,658
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Hurstpierpoint case can be ruled out as the person was arrested and has a driving ban. The 2012 rape case on Brighton beach is still one I am looking into. Three men and one being Albanian or Eastern European could be any number of people in Brighton.
     
    Andieinsyd and Marg from Oz like this.
  20. Dotta

    Dotta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,290
    Likes Received:
    11,947
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But it was nearly 10 years ago!!! Was he even in the UK then?
    Im curious when he came to England.
     

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice