GUILTY UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London, Clapham Common area, 3 Mar 2021 *Life sentence* #17

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  1. tallmansix

    tallmansix Well-Known Member

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    This is good to hear about how swiftly the police moved once they had information linking him to that scene and the benefits of CCTV.....

    but .....

    At this point the indecent exposure incident at Swanley services which had captured the number plate of his Seat is now 10 days old and absolutely no investigation has commenced or linked to the fact that it was a serving police officer.
     


  2. Skigh

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    The reason why this conversation is gendered is because it is essentially discussing flashing and suitable punishments/deterrents ,not weeing in public.
     
  3. Stella123

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    Take the point though - the term “indecent exposure” would need to be more specific than that or people could start complaining about others weeing in secluded public places - as it “exposes” private parts. Lots of false allegations etc. I remember a huge crackdown 15 years or so ago when perfectly innocent families were swooped on by police, reported by photo labs - of taking photos of their kids semi naked in a paddling pool or something. It needs to be very specific. “Flashing” is more of a layman’s term so wouldn’t be in a specific crime term. It would need to be “sexual” indecent exposure with “intent” to shock or cause distress.
     
  4. Stella123

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    Except - I believe his initial arrest included the Ie and kidnapping. The IE was later dropped. Presumably not enough evidence or to focus on the bigger crime?
     
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  5. Stella123

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    What the jokiness fails to recognise is there is a big difference between inadvertently seeing a “Willy” and being confronted by an erection, eye contact and leering. Particularly if it is specifically in front of one person.
     
  6. tallmansix

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    You are correct in that in many cases data is never really deleted, it has the index entry removed but the data still exists until overwritten by something else and can be recovered.

    However all modern smart phones have encrypted internal storage, so even though there will be traces of the data after wiping the phone, they are essentially unreadable because they are encrypted.

    An external SD memory card however would not normally be encrypted, so depending on what was stored on that, it may have evidence, but it was never mentioned again in the evidence presented so not sure what it did reveal.
     
  7. Dotta

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    :)
     
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    The 2003 Sexual Offences Act already defines indecent exposure in a way that excludes urinating in public.
     
  9. tallmansix

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    I really think the phrase "some men" should be used instead, I certainly don't think it is a joke and I'd hazard a guess that the majority of men don't either.

    And you don't know that only male officers were involved in the investigation of the Swanley IE incident, a third of the Met Police are female as is the Commissioner, quite possible that the incident would have been handled by a female at some point in the enquiry or rather lack of.
     
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    He is a sexual deviant.
    It might mean that only this way he can obtain satisfaction.
     
  11. Miss Scarlet

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    I have a question that maybe somebody ex police can answer… how easy is it to amend or delete records on the police database?
    Is it possible that he thought he was invincible to a certain extent as he had friends or family that could wipe or change any crimes?
    I was thinking such as the IE incident in 2015 that was marked ‘no further action’? Could there have been more that have ‘disappeared’?
     
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    Thanks for clarifying that :)
     
  15. Cherwell

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    We hear a lot about misogyny, but I am equally disturbed by the amount of misandry that is displayed these days.
     
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    I already provided a link to the tweet thread of the salient contents.
    eTA
    Post#178
     
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    Men commit 99% of sex crimes. Women are victims 88% of the time.

    Misogyny against women is far more serious than men feeling disgruntled about pointing this out.

    There’s a saying, that the worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.
     
  20. Dotta

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    Wolf whistles by women??? :)
    Well, here is the distinction -
    Men feel proud
    Women feel scared
     
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