Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #10

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  1. suzyjackson

    suzyjackson Well-Known Member

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    Is that a riddle? You need to explain it clearly please
     
  2. PomPom123

    PomPom123 Well-Known Member

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    Where can we find these insights please?
     
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    Can someone explain why in the UK some media and tabloids have blurred out WC's wife's face and others show it?

    Shouldn't your identity be protected until you're charged with something?

    Reminds of when Joanna Yates was murdered and they plastered that innocent landlord's face everywhere, didn't sit right with me then.
     
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    Do tell...
     
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    I really can’t stop thinking about how on earth such a horrific thing has happened to poor Sarah.

    I cant see how it could have happened as a result of them knowing each other. If they did (and IMO they didn’t) then it would either have had to have been a planned meet up or a chance encounter. Knowing Poynders road particularly well, it is not a place you would arrange to meet - it’s a busy main road where you’re not allowed to stop. So the only other alternative (in my mind but ideas welcome) is that he accidentally on purpose ‘bumps into her’ and offers a lift etc - but for a start how would he know exactly when she would have been there or that she would have even been taking that route home? Even if he was lurking/waiting for her - he would have had to have been pretty sure she would be where he was? If he had just been driving past and recognised her then that is too big a coincidence in my book - I’m not sure I would recognise many of my friends/acquaintances in the dark from the back with them wearing a hat/jacket/hood up(? - it was raining) as I was driving past?

    Which in my mind just leaves the opportunistic option - he’s either forcibly got her in the car or tricked her. The report from Court today confirming the CCTV saw the front two car doors open has thrown me as I previously thought the most likely option was that she was taken by force, even though this still seems difficult to imagine given the busy road etc, but I couldn’t see how she would have been convinced by him to get in the car.

    Even if he has convinced her to get in the front passenger seat for some reason, he has then had to convince her to hand over her phone/turn it off and he has been able to subdue her whilst driving?

    Sorry lots of questions here and but these are all the questions that keep going around and around in circles in my head. Horrible to think that Sarah’s family and friends may never get the answers - unless it’s on CCTV or WC tells the truth, we will never know.
     
  6. Nikynoo

    Nikynoo Verified Attorney - United Kingdom

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    I actually disagree with all your post, but respect your right to post it. The part BBM is factually inaccurate. You cannot know this for sure.
     
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  7. SveJeMoguce

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    It can be awkward when walking in groups perhaps, but there has never been a rule that you can't walk alone outside for exercise. She was also in excercise-like clothing.
     
  8. Stella123

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    Let me know when all this stops going round in circles! And can someone point me to the ignore button please? On the mobile website.
     
  9. Sleepysleuther

    Sleepysleuther Lawyer

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    Can you elaborate?
     
  10. Urbanfox1

    Urbanfox1 Verified Solicitor (UK)

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    I keep wondering if I would get in a policeman’s car if he showed me a warrant card. Id like to think in the back of my mind I’d know that a lone policeman wouldn’t ask you into car but would take details and ask you to report to a police station as soon as reasonably possible but in the time it would take me to get over my confusion and think that through, it could well be too late. I don’t think we’ll ever know but the Met might be advised to publicise and issue some guidance on the issue.
     
  11. Satchie

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    A real police car drove past moments before she was allegedly kidnapped. Again, I don't think real police would stop to harass a woman walking alone at night, they know it would freak her out.

    ETA,: I think SE would know this, she was mature and responsible.
     
  12. KensingtonandChelsea

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    That’s why I said maybe, I wasn’t definitive about it. I can’t know what was going on in his head but what I do know is that the police need to take things more seriously. They’ve already been criticised in the past year for telling rape victims to drop charges because the juries would never believe them in court. Even the government pulled them up on the severe decrease in rape prosecutions and the reasons for it.
     
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    Somebody posted the charge sheet earlier, read out in court and quoted by the media who were there today, in which it said Sarah was kidnapped "by force," i.e. not by fraud. Does anybody have the link to that? That would seem to definitively rule out any talk of WC using Covid-rules, broken down car, asking to use her phone, etc etc etc, and point to him physically just forcing her into the car.
     
  14. smucklecrumble

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    You’ll find it when you click on a profile.
     
  15. Skigh

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    I agree about the press encouraging it and being conveniently there to snap the right pictures for their agenda.
     
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    As is returning from work. There's a large teaching hospital three stops down on the tube from Clapham South (ironically the one where MSM reports say WC was treated) and hospital staff go on and off shift at all sorts of times
     
  17. suzyjackson

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    BBM - that's exactly what we're all theorising about but as he was off duty he wasn't pulling her over, it's a semantic issue maybe but whatever he did it couldn't be described by a term that applies to on duty officers

    I suggest we agree to differ though :)
     
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    Click on the poster’s name (in blue) and ‘ignore’ will be one of the options that appears. I’ve never used it as much as on this series of threads!
     
  19. Nikynoo

    Nikynoo Verified Attorney - United Kingdom

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    Well, yes they should, seeing as 60% of victims of violent crime are men.

    This is not a them vs us situation.

    ALL people need to be safe from violence.

    Thats' me done for tonight.
     
  20. asyousay

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    Thank you if you have that handy as I only two the two front doors open which would go towards my theory that she got in willingly.
     
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