Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #10

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  1. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Even if she willingly got into the car it is still kidnapping if he coerced her under false pretenses. Imo
     
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  2. asyousay

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    Wow so he doesn’t stop off anywhere it seems he just heads out London with her restrained in the car.
     
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  3. CutiePatootie

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    His warrant card should never be in his locker. Met Police officers are required to carry their warrant card with them at all times including when they are off duty.
     
  4. PleasantMess

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    With all due respect this is not always the case and it is different rules in different authorities. If he was sent home after starting the shift, then he could have felt the need to call in sick for the next shift. It is a possibility, and when I have worked for local authorities there have been roles whereby it is required, to call in sick each day, possibly until you have a sick note and then they don't expect you back until you're better. Jmo
     
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  5. davidattenborough

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    Yep, but that would be kidnapping "by fraud." The charge sheet states it was kidnapping "by force." They are the two elements of kidnapping according to UK law - it has to be one or the other.
     
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  7. Sleepysleuther

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    I agree, I have never seen an unmarked white car, I see a lot coming from Westminster /Whitehall, usually always black. I wouldn’t think a white Astra was an unmarked car. Anyway, I think the theory of her getting in voluntarily has been debunked on the back of the charge of kidnap by force and the only evidence being cctv.
     
  8. JosieJo

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    I do not think it was posted as a likely theory but to show how wording of charges mean various things
     
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  10. Emmalt

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    Under cover police cars here.. are they generally vauxhall astras? If so then pre med could be possible.. if he has hired a car that undercover police tend to use it wouldn't look that unusual. JMO

    I think there is alot more to come out about this guy. MOO

    So scary what has happened and what this girl has possibly gone through.. I'm actually heartbroken for her and her family and friends
     
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  11. Joolz1975

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    Sure it said cause of death had not been released, rather than not determined.
     
  12. Mrs Marple

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  13. Sandyuk

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    Why does it worry you ?
     
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  15. Parmalade

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    Just a thought re the two “front” doors of the Astra captured on bus cam as open, and how this at first might strike us as odd in that it may suggest he placed SE in the front with him, which has its own obvious drawbacks (for him).

    What we don’t know is the exact model of Astra. If it was a GTC, the only way into the back seats is through the front doors.

    It’s possible he drove past Sarah, spotted her come off of her phone (or not), pulled over and put hazards on to ‘allow’ his car to be there to passing motorists and even police, moves the passenger seat forward, waited for her to approach, he opens his door first to get out, leaves it open for speed of reentry in a moment, opens the passenger side door, bundles her into the back through the passenger door by “force”, possibly incapacitates her in some way (more “force”), quickly reenters the car and drives off.
     
  16. arrogantcat

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    I know we currently know very little about the wife’s involvement, if any, but I have to say I feel quite a lot of sympathy for her. My assumption is that she was fairly clueless about all of this. I cannot imagine waking up to the notion that the man sleeping next to you and putting your children to bed is a sex offender and murderer.
    It’s easy to imagine a man like that being controlling and abusive at home, and how hard that would be to properly recognise for somebody isolated from her family and home friends.

    And those poor children - just getting life back on track after the pandemic, and now having their entire world thrown upside down.

    There are truly just no winners here, and so much awful waste and tragedy.
     
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  17. JosieJo

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    Yes
    well in theory he could stop and ask her about anything...
     
  18. opalsqueak63

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    What exactly are you trying to say? 'Uncomfortable' about what?
     
  19. Berlinetta

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    Well yes what's your point?
     
  20. SveJeMoguce

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    You are assuming the reason she got into the car in that scenario is because she was frauded into it, but that isn't necessarily the case.
     
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