Sandyuk
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What flat ?
Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #14
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What flat ?
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Genuine question : is this a fact ? That he had a rented flat ?
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Source? No proof of renting any flat.
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No - I imagine this is key evidence that won’t come to light until trial (or plea hearing if plea is guilty).
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Which flat did he rent? I haven't seen any information regarding a rented flat in London / Kent?
What flat are you referring to?
Where does it say the accused rented a flat?
His commute into work wasn’t that long of a commute and millions make that same type of trek daily for work.
The accused also had children and a wife at home so I don’t know why people assume he had a flat. There has been zero mention of one by LE and he could easily do his journey daily as the drive isn’t that bad.
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Interesting thought re the arresting fantasy, thank you. And yes it's definitely happened plenty. However, IMO and in my experience (couple of years working as police staff), victims of that kind of crime tend to be vulnerable, already in custody for some other reason, and/or known to the officer. It's often drug users/repeat shoplifters etc who are frequently interacting with the police and in a position of diminished power (vulnerability). To try something like that with a non-vulnerable (as far as we know), random woman off the street seems very unlikely to me. Repercussions much, much more likely and likely to be much more severe. But of course JMO.
No it is not a fact. It is something a poster wondered when considering their own theories. There has been no mention of it anywhere in the media.
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The official reports state he finished his last shift at 7am.
No confirmation of the 2-8 shift appeared which suggests it was erroneous reporting in early versions of media.
Also we do not know hire date for vehicle.
Do we know where the accused Wayne Couzens lived weekdays ?
No
No way could he commute from Deal to Westminster on a daily basis, surely ?
Yes, people do commute that far
No police search of a London address ?
None disclosed
Where was he for the ten hours between end of morning shift and alleged snatch ?
Nothing relevant disclosed
Had he been suspended already because of allegations of exposing himself the week before ?
Possibly not, because the investigation into the offence has been referred to the IOPC. It's a matter of record that the defendant was also arrested for an IE offence, but he has not been charged, so there's nothing more to be said
Did he know he was going to lose his job ?
Unknown
Did he know Sarah from running events, was he stalking her ?
Both unknown
How could he snatch her off a busy road, and why ?
He is charged with kidnapping by force, so that's possible. But no official word on why or how (lots of theorising in this thread based on the information on activity in Poynders Road as described in the magistrates court
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Maybe we'll get some answers in the October trial ..
Yes, and not before, because of sub judice rules
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No way could he commute from Deal to Westminster on a daily basis, surely ?
Yes, people do commute that far
No police search of a London address ?
None disclosed
Where was he for the ten hours between end of morning shift and alleged snatch ?
Nothing relevant disclosed
Had he been suspended already because of allegations of exposing himself the week before ?
Possibly not, because the investigation into the offence has been referred to the IOPC. It's a matter of record that the defendant was also arrested for an IE offence, but he has not been charged, so there's nothing more to be said
Did he know he was going to lose his job ?
Unknown
Did he know Sarah from running events, was he stalking her ?
Both unknown
How could he snatch her off a busy road, and why ?
He is charged with kidnapping by force, so that's possible. But no official word on why or how (lots of theorising in this thread based on the information on activity in Poynders Road as described in the magistrates court
[edited to remove irrelevant tirets about family etc]
Maybe we'll get some answers in the October trial ..
Yes, and not before, because of sub judice rules
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No information of evidence that this was the case.
Some of us locals would be v surprised if this was the case given the horrendous cost of living in London. Even giving the theory the benefit of the doubt, room rentals would be potentially £1,000 per month. Not sure, however bad the commute to/from london to Deal, that it would be a sensible household financial decision to be renting a room in London. More interested in the theory that maybe there is a mixture of driving/public transport commute. And that the location the body was found was alongside a railway line which could mean whoever did this had knowledge of its remoteness/dereliction (from spotting out of the train window) or allows for ongoing monitoring of subsequent “activity” at the site in the days/weeks after.
I read near the start that he rented a flat in London and I was under the impression that it was the one in Poynders Road searched at the very beginning.
Great idea, well done
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On the timeline thread it shows the 14-20 embassy shift came out in court on 13th ?
Or are we saying that media reported this incorrectly/unreliable after the hearing on the 13th?
All genuine questions , TIA
No confirmation the accused rented a flat and no confirmation he was meant to work a 2-8pm shift. The former is speculation here, the latter was bad and unsubstantiated reporting.
I'm no mod and wouldn't want to be one but in my opinion any theories based on either of the two things should be marked as opinion or speculation. There are a lot of people dipping in and out and there have been a few occasions where something was taken as fact when it was just speculation.
I'm no mod and wouldn't want to be one but in my opinion any theories based on either of the two things should be marked as opinion or speculation. There are a lot of people dipping in and out and there have been a few occasions where something was taken as fact when it was just speculation.
Is this car likely to be a white Astra? Captured coming from Poynders Road at the Brixton Hill crossing at 9:41PM. Apologies if someone already mentioned this.
Link: https://livetrains.co.uk/jamCams/osm/#00001.03762
Link: https://livetrains.co.uk/jamCams/osm/#00001.03762
I would file that in the draw labelled unsubstantiated rumour and shut it tightly away.
There has been absolutely no evidence for this.
The timeline given in court last Saturday makes no mention of the 2-8 shift, it was stated that he finished his work early in the morning and that he was not on duty in the evening when SE disappeared. So I think yes, unreliable reporting. If I remember correctly that shift was always linked to "sources" telling the MSM, never confirmed.
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