UK UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 Arrests #8

Nikynoo · Mar 11, 2021

NottReds50 said:
Why would he go to a hire place and put in his own details so ANPR tracks him? Either stupid or brave?

Or the media have got it wrong

or its a 'pool' car that the Met officers can use when in town?

infinit · Mar 11, 2021

Emerald1991 said:
Seems very possible, and explains why Cressida Dick was so nervous.

Yeah it could be this or she just could be aware of grim details that are not public and is genuinely shocked. She's the big boss and it's happened on her watch, I'm sure there is some internal conflict that they should have seen it even if it turns out that wasn't realistic.

Lucy6226 · Mar 11, 2021

NottReds50 said:
Why would he go to a hire place and put in his own details so ANPR tracks him? Either stupid or brave?

Or the media have got it wrong

Just thought...maybe it was hired in his wife's name....hence her being arrested too. Hoping it wouldn't be immediately obvious it was him? MOO

Piehead · Mar 11, 2021

You can't hire a car in a false name, unless you had a fake driving license in that name which I'm sure hire companies are clued up on.

Emmalt · Mar 11, 2021

Does anyone have the cctv of the guy in what looks to be a shop doorway who was wanted in connection to an IE. I saw it earlier somewhere but now can't find it. Not sure if we can add it on the thread here but if not if someone could message it to me I'd be very grateful.. TIA

tigerowl · Mar 11, 2021

Nikynoo said:
or its a 'pool' car that the Met officers can use when in town?

I think if it was a pool car they would have to describe it as a police car.

Biadee · Mar 11, 2021

Nikynoo said:
but they need to link the suspect and the victim, yes?

yes, they’d need to show sufficient evidence that there’s a realistic prospect of conviction, which must entail some link between suspect and victim. It wouldn’t necessarily have to come from the body. For example, if WC is the assailant, there may be DNA in the car used to abduct Sarah.

Dinosaursplash · Mar 11, 2021

Lucy6226 said:
Norwich is about 180miles from his home in Deal. Long way to go to get your knob out!!

A lot of sex offenders do not operate in their own area of residence. Because they'd be recognised! The photos look similar and if it was WC, it shows an escalating pattern of behaviour that would fit the MO.

MOO.

Vera_dci · Mar 11, 2021

londonsleuther said:
I just want to weigh in about the hire car thing. I am not sure how many other U.K. citizens will agree but it is extremely uncommon in the U.K. to hire a car, especially if you have 2 cars sitting on your driveway. I can only think of 1 time in my lifetime when my family has hired a car in the U.K. and it was to go to the airport to save on parking costs before a holiday.

I think either, this is poor reporting by MSM and that the car is PCP/HP (for Americans basically this is leasing a car where the finance company own it and you rent it for a long period of time - years, then you have the option to buy it or trade it in).

Or shows a very high level of premeditation.

JMO, MOO etc

I wondered if his seat was in for a service and it was a courtesy car.

londonsleuther · Mar 11, 2021

NottReds50 said:
Why would he go to a hire place and put in his own details so ANPR tracks him? Either stupid or brave?

Or the media have got it wrong

Yep I think the media have just got it wrong, poor journalism and a silly thing to overlook.

I agree though he would be registered keeper under PCP/HP but it is still a leased car ie he doesn’t own it ie “hire”. And they have never said he wasn’t registered keeper, they’ve just used the word “hire”.

Another poster said there could be legitimate reasons why he hired one eg car in garage etc but there were 2 cars on his driveway when he got arrested - it just doesn’t make sense to me at all.

Also agree with another poster that it’s not uncommon to hire a car for a specific journey in London e.g a zip car but something just isn’t sitting right with me. It just doesn’t make logical sense why he would have a hire car with two cars literally outside his home.

He’s a police officer after all, he would’ve known hiring a car would not conceal his identity for very long...

Or I’m way off and it was very premeditated/he thought he could get away with it! Perhaps he put false plates on it, who knows?!

JMO, MOO

Piehead · Mar 11, 2021

I doubt any met "pool cars" could be used for personal commuting unless specifically authorised by a senior office. Abuse of organisations cars is a huge no no in the UK public sector. I remember few years back an Royal Navy admiral had to resign over some minor scandal of a wife using his official car for a personal journey.

Richard Yokely · Mar 11, 2021

tigerowl said:
I think if it was a pool car they would have to describe it as a police car.

Many police forces use hire companies to rent out “plain” vehicles for officers to use for various different roles.

Dowls90 · Mar 11, 2021

Vera_dci said:
I wondered if his seat was in for a service and it was a courtesy car.

Not a bad shout! Could explain why the car looked very clean too. All my cars get cleaned by the dealership after a service.

MsMiniSleuth · Mar 11, 2021

Dinosaursplash said:
A lot of sex offenders do not operate in their own area of residence. Because they'd be recognised! The photos look similar and if it was WC, it shows an escalating pattern of behaviour that would fit the MO.

MOO.

Could have been on a course up there, or asked to cover a Royal on their way to Sandringham...?

JJJ85 · Mar 11, 2021

Dinosaursplash said:
A lot of sex offenders do not operate in their own area of residence. Because they'd be recognised! The photos look similar and if it was WC, it shows an escalating pattern of behaviour that would fit the MO.

MOO.

Distance decay (Geographic profiling term) shows though that most offenders commit their crimes close to where they work or live, as thats the places they're most comfortable and familiar with. The further away from the offenders locality, the less likely they are to offend there.

Richard Yokely · Mar 11, 2021

tigerowl said:
I think if it was a pool car they would have to describe it as a police car.

Many police forces use hire companies to rent out “plain” vehicles for officers to use for various different roles.

infinit · Mar 11, 2021

Dowls90 said:
Not a bad shout! Could explain why the car looked very clean too. All my cars get cleaned by the dealership after a service.

Could also be another reason it was very clean

Dowls90 · Mar 11, 2021

Vera_dci said:
I wondered if his seat was in for a service and it was a courtesy car.

Not a bad shout! Could explain why the car looked very clean too. All my cars get cleaned by the dealership after a service.

Aviator · Mar 11, 2021

MsMiniSleuth said:
Pulling this over from last thread.

Was it someone on here who first found it? The timing would fit if had caught red lights on route. And isn't that Lordship Lane/Dulwich Com junction the A205 which runs through Clapham Common and is also Poynders Road?

https://livetrains.co.uk/jamCams/archive/00001.03901/vid/1614808846.mp4

South Circular, so A205 through Forest Hill, Catford, then Cliftons Roundabout to Join the A20.

Tealgrove · Mar 11, 2021

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