US Virgin Islands - Hannah Upp, 32, St. Thomas, 14 Sept 2017

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  1. eucalyptuz

    eucalyptuz Well-Known Member

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    From https://www.facebook.com/FindHannahUppUSVI/

    HURRICANE MARIA: HANNAH UPP, YOUNG TEACHER WITH RARE FORM OF AMNESIA, GOES MISSING ON ST. THOMAS
    From: http://www.newsweek.com/missing-tea...t-thomas-virgin-islands-hurricane-irma-668471


    Very detailed, long piece in the New Yorker about Hannah, her condition, past disappearances and the psychology of a "dissociative fugue state".
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/02/how-a-young-woman-lost-her-identity

    I cannot find a thread for Hannah Upp despite an earlier high profile disappearance in NYC in 2008. I read the long piece in the New Yorker (linked above) and my interest was piqued as we often look at "dissociative fugue" as a possible scenario for many missing persons cases.

    Tags: Hannah, Upp, St Thomas, dissociative fugue, amnesia
     
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    eucalyptuz Well-Known Member

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    Article after her first disappearance:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/nyregion/thecity/01miss.html
     
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    Highly recommend listening to the new yorkers audio of the story. Amazing. Hope to hear of a good outcome.
     
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    chinacat67 Proud walking jingle in the midnight sun

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    The New Yorker article is a must read. It is fascinating on dissociative fugue and also the particulars on Hannah's situation.

    I hope she is found soon. The hurricane is the most worrisome part to me.

    Moo

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    Aescwynn OMG Vapor Maid Sticky Buns Butterscotch, take me a

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    Bumping for a little more visibility to the New Yorker piece, which is an amazing read.
     
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    The article was amazing! What an interesting family. I hope they find her safe!
     
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    Following
     
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    eucalyptuz Well-Known Member

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    This is the pinned post from the Find Hannah Upp FB page:
    BBM
    This list of potential locations is worth noting. I think this list includes the destinations of known boats leaving the island ahead of the hurricane’s landfall. Additionally, she is known to be a very strong swimmer so possible locations could include any region within a swimming (drifting) distance.
     
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    Read about this in the NYer and was captivated. I imagine at some point, if she's still alive, she must come out of her fugue?? Also interesting how the article portrayed the relative parents (I won't say more)
     
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    I just read the New Yorker article in addition to a long piece in the NYT about her first fugue state in 2008. In both her previous fugue states, she was found in the water. In the first case, she was found face down in the water and had she not been found when she was, she would have died. I fear with all the chaos surrounding the hurricanes IrMaria, she has drowned.

    On the other hand, it is possible to stay dissociated for years, so the fact that she may be living another life elsewhere cannot be ruled out. It is interesting that during the 3 weeks she had disappeared in 2008, she didn't seem to take on a new identity, but just drifted about mysteriously. Not taking on a new identity would be even more dangerous because she would lose any sense of purpose beyond the desire to travel and go into water, which could lead to life-threatening situations.
     
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    I checked the Facebook page for her and she's still missing. :(
     
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    Bumping for Hannah
     
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    Bumping for Hannah!
     
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    Bumping for Hannah, seems an awfully long time to be unspotted. Hopefully I’m wrong.
     
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    I'd never heard of Hannah's case before coming across her story while searching for a match to these unidentified remains. This is such a mesmerizing case! This case has too many potential outcomes for me to even try to figure it out. I will put Hannah and her loved ones in my prayers and hope that she comes waltzing in the door one day soon. In the event that she did meet an untimely death, I'm left wondering if perhaps she ended up in the ocean. Does anyone know if these skeletal remains have been compared against Hannah's DNA? These were located one year after Hannah's disappearance (23 Sep 2018).

    3450UMVI

    Date of Discovery: September 23, 2018
    Location of Discovery: St. Thomas, Virgin Islands
    Estimated Date of Death: Unknown
    State of Remains: Near complete or complete skeleton
    Cause of Death: Unknown

    Circumstances of Discovery
    Human remains were discovered off Inner Brass Island, an uninhabited island off St. Thomas. The decedent was taken to Schneider Regional Medical Center for an autopsy. Gender, age, and race of the body could not be identified do to the state of remains.
     
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    Well, it is a possibility.
     
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    If the body washed up onshore, it must have mostly intact. Otherwise it would be referred to as bones, remains or something descriptive. At least I would think so anyway. Interesting that they couldn’t even tell the gender. No DNA listed either and nothing about dentals.

    The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

    Circumstances of Recovery
    The body was found washed up on the shore of an uninhabited island off the coast of St. Thomas.
     
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