Found Deceased UT-5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley Found Deceased (UNCLE ARRESTED) #3

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  1. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    omg just seeing the news
    RIP sweet angel girl
     


  2. TTF14

    TTF14 Spaceship Headlight Pattern Expert

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    I think it would behoove everyone to actually READ the report. Alex did not say HE was horny!

    Still, I think he sexually assaulted poor little Lizzy :(.
     
  3. Trudie

    Trudie Well-Known Member

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    He was in a suicide smock in his mugshot, I’m sure he’ll remain on watch in county lock up. Once he’s transferred to state & gets thru orientation, I doubt it. I don’t think they care...honestly. County jail is dif, their job is to keep the incarcerated person alive, available for trial & jailers dislike deaths in his facility & the red tape that follows.
    I’d say AW was back in his smock as soon as he finished with court yesterday. Jmo
     
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  4. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    That’s exactly what @GordianKnot mentioned earlier, that the death penalty was probably used as leverage to get him to give up her body.

    All about himself.

    Sicko.

    *Edited to give credit to thunder stealer. :p
     
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  5. DTPeke

    DTPeke Well-Known Member

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    I find it very telling out of all the statements he likely made, LE included this one regarding his sister and boyfriend being horny in the charging documents. I am very interested in their take on this...did he just sexualize the situation in his own mind? Very sick individual.
     
  6. beatrixpotter

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    And of course there is that element of simply choosing to not drink alcohol if you know it makes you black out and do criminal things! You'd think people were forcing him to drink.

    I remember there was also something stating he told police he used drugs daily. But it also said he quit his job like 4 months ago. I keep wondering how people without jobs have money for drugs every day or even frequently. I thought drugs were expensive but maybe they aren't.
     
  7. smucklecrumble

    smucklecrumble Well-Known Member

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    I don’t believe he even left for a walk....
     
  8. mistivon

    mistivon Verified Insider - Maricela Garcia

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    Im still waaaaaay behind but this post is so good, I wanted to bring it forward. @JaneEyre please save this so you can post it in future cases. Thank u for your wisdom and insight.
     
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    Welcome to WS
     
  10. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Innocent Bystander

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    Rest easy sweet Lizzy.
     
  11. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    C(Gary Jenson) So hard to watch big strong LEO struggle with the weight of this traggedy. Love how he shows concern for the family,and making sure they get the counseling needed to help them through this.
    I hope Chief Gary Jenson and all other LEO working this case get counseling too.
    :*(
    My condolences to Elizabeth's family,and loved ones.
     
  12. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    I don't think LE has verified either one as being the case. Not yet, anyway. (have they?)
     
  13. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    It was relevant because it served as his explanation for why he left that house.

    Of course we are all reading more into it than just that, and I don’t think we’re wrong.

    Projection at its finest.
     
  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    No. They can’t know without her body, and now that they have it, they will likely be able to make that determination.
     
  15. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Well-Known Member

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    That info was included because it’s the reason he gave for leaving. Not an exact quote ‘sister and boyfriend acting horny, going to bed and he didn’t want to hear it so he left.’

    I also believe there’s a little bit of truth in every lie and he left with Lizzy so his sister and her boyfriend wouldn’t hear anything. moo
     
  16. MsBetsy

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    Well, he did a lot of walking after the crime but I agree that the reason he left with Lizzy was definitely not to go for a walk and commune with nature. Imo
     
  17. beatrixpotter

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    I read it. But I don't take it as factual. He's a murderer setting the stage of his crime. He presents it as his sister and boyfriend were acting all aggressively horny and he had to leave to not hear them. I just don't buy what he's selling. There are always some elements of truth in what someone like this chooses to share regarding what happened. But I don't believe it's the way he presents it personally. JMO
     
  18. Knox

    Knox #justiceforMoni ~

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    I did read the report!

    I think the account he gave of JW & DB getting horny was his way of telling what lead up to his assault of Lizzy. That's why he was all revved up himself.

    This kid blames others for his bad conduct, nothing is ever his fault. Poor me, boo-hoo. I have a feeling he's going to be in real trouble once he reaches prison ...
     
  19. Waterdog

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    We humans as a species are vile creatures.
     
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  20. GordianKnot

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    Yes, I so agree, Massy!

    It's also in line with exactly what I mentioned even earlier today about AW being more likely to give LE information in exchange for some type of deal than to confess anything to a family member.

    Indeed, it's all about himself.
    In his own mind, anyway.

    Nobody else shares his sentiments.

    JMO.
     
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