Found Deceased UT-5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley Found Deceased (UNCLE ARRESTED) #3

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  1. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Yup -- a popular line, borrowed it from Mollie Tibbett's alleged murderer.
     


  2. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Well-Known Member

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    Right? And he loses his ‘blackout’ excuse by disclosing her location.
     
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  3. Bravo

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    Well at least were not hearing he has "The fog" (Jodi Arias)
     
  4. mistivon

    mistivon Verified Insider - Maricela Garcia

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    That's beautiful. Thank you, I will do that, too.
     
  5. MsMarple

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    I don't think an insanity plea will be accepted but it doesn't stop his lawyer from filing.

    The lawyer stated in this interview that he believed mental illness is involved and he told the reporter that he expects AW to go through a lot of mental evaluations.

    So here it begins. Let's hope this case doesn't drag out for years as have others. The family doesn't deserve the agony it causes.
     
  6. wary

    wary Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I think it’s a moot point, in Utah. They don’t have degrees of murder—they have murder and aggravated murder—and her death clearly falls under ‘aggravated murder.’

    MOO, of course.
     
  7. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I think it's more likely they just went to sleep. He could have just said they were snoring loudly so he went out for a walk but for some strange reason the word horny came to his mind. Imo
     
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  8. MimosaMornings

    MimosaMornings Well- Known Member

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    Like in a hallway?
     
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  9. MimosaMornings

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    I must have missed Mom and BF’s version.
     
  10. mickey2942

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    Because HE was horny. It is horrific to even write that.
     
  11. claudianunes

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    Their version is that mother went to bed first and the boyfriend followed a bit later and they slept. Both left Alex to crash on the couch. Poor family. They were just being nice to him.
     
  12. wary

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    It’s a moot point under Utah law—there, he qualifies for the death penalty for murdering a five year old.

    But—in the states that refer to premeditation, it takes very little time. No ‘planning’ time is required. Say silently to yourself: “If he/she were dead, they couldn’t call the cops.” Two seconds? That’s all that’s needed for premeditation.

    You’re definitely right that taking her alive out of the house, and taking the knife out of the kitchen, would be more than enough

    MOO of course.
     
  13. ClaireNC

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  14. SuziQ

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    Many old houses have a walk through bedroom. In other words, you walk through a bedroom to get to the master bedroom. This is particularly true in two level houses. The older children sleep on the second floor. And the youngest sleep in the walk through room near mom and dad. You have yo remember there wasn't any baby intercoms back then. Also, no hallways was a better use of space.

    Sorry for the long run on explanation. Old houses are an obsession of mine.
     
  15. sleuther0192837465

    sleuther0192837465 Stand up for what is right even if you stand alone

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    I grew up in one. My bedroom was the walk-through. MOO
     
  16. September16

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    Well said.
     
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  17. MimosaMornings

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  18. LietKynes

    LietKynes "What do you despise? By this you are truly known"

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    Yes, it's like the murderer to cast blame on the family !
    Just like he 'repaid' them for their kindness to such a loser.

    So sad for what that community is going through, as well.
    Doubtless there are many who are as horrified as we are here at WS.
     
  19. oviedo

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    I think it was a psychological response to being caught and a juvenile attempt at hiding evidence after the fact IMO
     
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  20. SuziQ

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    Shot gun houses are like this. No hallway. You usually walk through a living room, kitchen, bedroom, maybe another bedroom, bathroom and out the backdoor. I owned one that was only one bedroom, built in 1904. It was so gothic and moody. I loved that house!
     
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