Found Deceased UT - Daniel Brown, 34, Iron County, 28 March 2016

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  1. los2188

    los2188 North Carolina Tar Heels..your NCCA Champs!!

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    Search is on for missing man who left stranded family to find help in snowy Iron County mountains
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    http://fox13now.com/2016/03/29/iron-county-search-crews-looking-for-man-missing-near-parowan/
     
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  3. Wyle_E_Coyote

    Wyle_E_Coyote Well-Known Member

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    From the link above :

    On Tuesday, Brown had not returned to his family. At that time, BrownÂ’s wife called for help.

    Um... if she was able to call out, why didn't they do that right away?

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  4. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    That's weird.
     
  5. perfectingpink

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  7. JerseyGirl

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    The family was found by the help of a GPS signal that was obtained from the 911 call.

    When deputies found Brown's wife and their children, the car was not running and the family was cold, but healthy.


    http://kutv.com/news/local/search-for-missing-father-ongoing-in-intense-snow-in-southern-utah

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    Brown left the vehicle and his family around 4 p.m. Monday.

    Brown's wife called the police Tuesday morning around 10:20 a.m. when her husband still had not returned.


    https://www.ksl.com/?sid=39104765&nid=148
     
  8. JerseyGirl

    JerseyGirl Moderator Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    some things don't add up, WHY either one of them didn't use the phone on Monday at 4:00 p.m., rather than Daniel stepping out of his vehicle and looking for help without a jacket and wearing tennis shoes?!? How do you sleep until 10:30 in the morning with 4 kids in the car stranded in a snowstorm?

    (Brown) recently lost his job and they have been homeless for about a week.


    more background on the phone situation:

    When Brown’s wife woke and realized her husband had not returned she used his cell phone to call for help at approximately 10:30 a.m.; she didn’t know her husband had left the phone behind until that morning when she looked in the console.

    When he left the vehicle, authorities said he was wearing a blue t-shirt, blue jeans and tennis shoes.


    http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/ar...ather-due-to-weather-conditions/#.VvvCPdIrLAU
     
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  10. laytonian

    laytonian New Member

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    This entire situation makes no sense at all.
    If you've lost your job and have been homeless for a week, WHY do you head out onto dirt roads in the snowy mountains?
    No relatives, no friends?
    In Cedar City, there are are services to help them.
    In St George, about 60 miles south, it's a warm climate with many services (and jobs).

    I agree with others who think something else was going on. You can't live out there.
     
  11. LookingForClues

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    In addition to all the strange things others have mentioned, did anyone notice the missing poster says his place of birth is "unknown." His wife doesn't know where he was born? They're married, have 4 kids with the oldest being 11 years old, and in all that time she never asked? Surely he produced a birth certificate to get the marriage license? Surely that information is on the birth certificates of their children, as well?

    :thinking: :waitasec:
     
  12. carbuff

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    Well, if she thought he had the cell phone, at least her side of it makes sense.

    Him, however...
     
  13. flourish

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    I can only speak for myself in a nearby state, but when I needed housing desperately, the shortest wait for EMERGENCY housing was 8 WEEKS. For emergency housing. Two. Months. There tends to be a lot more need than there is resources. I didn't have a car to sleep in. I can't imagine how scary that would be for an entire family.
     
  14. Tulessa

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    I just wonder if the two of them have cooked up a scheme? I'm wondering if he had life insurance?
     
  15. Limecat

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    Another baffling case it seems. If the snow was so deep they got stuck and help had to hike in to them, then I have two questions.

    First if the wife was able to call for help in the morning why didn't the husband call when they first got stuck? I understand she thought that he had taken the phone with him, but if "they" had a cell phone when they got stuck, why not use it then?

    Secondly, why did he not have a coat??


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  16. Tssiemer

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    Sure. I'll bite. How long were they stuck? If he had a phone why leave? Did he leave like on purpose to just leave? No coat!!???

    Wtf??


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  17. LookingForClues

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    It sounds like he didn't stay on the road and follow it back to town, or walk it to the upcoming town. Did he lose the road? Or did he purposely try to take a shortcut?

    I still can't figure out why he didn't have a winter coat. Even if it was a warm day, the night temps in that area are in the 20s this time of year. He had to know it would take several hours to reach help and he left at 4 pm.
     
  18. carbuff

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    Maybe he couldn't afford one.
     
  19. ms_x_to_the_m

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    I can understand that. But to go out. In the snow. Wearing a tshirt? Like seriously?
    Something stinks.
     
  20. azure

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    This case is too hinky. Driving that far out of town into the mountains, in a snowstorm, when you are living in your car is unwise, to say the least. The cell phone thing is frankly unbelievable. I wonder if drugs were involved.
     
  21. carbuff

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    It sounds like he is probably either faking his death in a way that will allow his family to collect his life insurance, or else just plain suicidal. But he wouldn't be the first person to perish trying to walk for help in a snowstorm:

    http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county...storm-related_death_reported_in_south_je.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kim
    http://globegazette.com/news/local/...cle_6ff8908f-c4f8-5c71-a56b-23050748f985.html
     

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