Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #16 *ARREST*

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  1. Paulas88

    Paulas88 Well-Known Member

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    Remember the numerous photos of investigators in the garage. Did he bludgeon her there? When she arrived or was it when she was leaving?
     
  2. Midwestmom2019

    Midwestmom2019 Well-Known Member

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    Zip tied or rope tied to keep her arms from flopping around whether in the vehicle or while burying her. Like spaghetti hanging off the side of a bowl. Pain to eat if one or two pieces hanging over the edge...or even off the fork.
    Sorry about analogy.
     
  3. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Charred body of slain college student was bound in shallow grave
    Lueck's remains were discovered in a shallow grave in a wooded area with her arms bound behind her back by a zip tie and rope, Gill said.

    I am sick right along with you, Bits. Having a bottle of Gaviscon for lunch. :(
     
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  4. Mentalheadslap2018

    Mentalheadslap2018 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Her last text was at 2:58, the Lyft drop was at 2:59, and the phone was also powered off at 2:59. He attacked her immediately. IMO.
     
  5. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    Wonder if he thought burning would eliminate his dna.
     
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  6. Midwestmom2019

    Midwestmom2019 Well-Known Member

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    Buckles off her purses, bags. Other clothing in her wheel case.
    Her stuff, probably.
     
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    I think he discovered very early that people would possibly report the fire and odor and that it was more difficult to burn a body than he imagined. He didn’t plan to do that or he would have had the gas on hand from the beginning.

    As for the zip ties, and this is difficult to say, keeping arms and legs bound together Makes it easier to move a body.

    Edited for clarification: they did not say her feet were bound.

    JMO
     
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  8. kgreg2529

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    Maybe another thing he isn’t very good at. Burning stuff. o_O
     
  9. CeeCeeCat

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    Oh Kenzie...
    I am still catching up, but what I’ve read so far is horrific. This has to be beyond traumatic for her family and friends. Holding them in my thoughts today.
     
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  10. wary

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    I’ve always thought that there’s a reasonable chance that she powered down her phone herself. The timeline was so tight—remember she’s got to get an awkward piece of luggage unloaded from the Lyft and into his car, too. (I know people keep saying that no one ever, ever, ever powers down their phone nowadays. I don’t believe them.)
     
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  11. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Yep, and there are buckles on all three of her bags (backpack, suitcase, purse).

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  12. GordianKnot

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    Actually, in Utah, it's lethal injection or firing squad, so rope won't do the trick.

    Guess they're going to need to get the needle.

    Or the Winchester rifles.

    Or both.

    Y'know, just to be sure.

    "Better safe than sorry," as they say.

    JMO.
     
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    Boxer Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you are right, and a small black backpack. that fits the items.
     
  14. crhedBngr

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    We need to link the several airport photos of her.

    Thanks, @PommyMommy!
     
  15. stormymama

    stormymama Verified Coke 0 Addict

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    I hate even typing this much less thinking it...

    Could the hole in her head have been caused by the pitchfork?
     
  16. 1987

    1987 Well-Known Member

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    why would he have put anything in the ally though?
     
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    Could she have dropped her phone when exiting the Lyft/ getting her luggage and it turned off? Unlikely, but I can see a phone shutting off after a hard hit to the concrete. MOO
     
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  18. Mentalheadslap2018

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    I'm thinking she could have been struck more than once, at different times, by different means (back of hand, then with something, etc.). The fatal wound would not necessarily have been the first blow.
     
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    5 cm is about the size of a lime. 2 inches - googled it. Jeez. no wonder they determined that was the killing blow.

    Jim Spiewak on Twitter
    Cell phone records place Ayoola cell phone in Logan canyon where #MackenzieLueck remains were found. After lengthy search detectives found charred human body, her arms bound behind her back with rope, suffered blunt force trauma to skull ‘which would have been fatal.’
    11:04 AM - 10 Jul 2019
     
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  20. roche.analisa

    roche.analisa Well-Known Member

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    Plastic tends to melt more than burn, and it smells terrible.

    Rope and zip ties were used I envision the zip ties helping ensure the rope stays tied.
     
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