Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #16 *ARREST*

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  1. Elley Mae

    Elley Mae The enemy is here. beware

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    In the photo at airport she appears to have dark/black pants on and a backpack/rucksack, buckles?

    Body Of Missing El Segundo Woman Mackenzie Lueck Found In Utah Canyon
     
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  2. yellowmoose

    yellowmoose Verified Friend of Mackenzie Lueck

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    So while I'm still trying to put all the pieces together, I'm thinking maybe he thought he would be able to burn her whole body and so he tried. But given that his neighbors were complaining maybe he gave up trying to do the whole thing because he realized it would take longer than he planned so he gave up on trying to burn her completely? Or maybe he tried burning only one part and realized how long it would take and decided not to do the rest? I agree, it is strange to think that he burned her but the zip ties and rope were still in tact as well as her arms (assuming so since they said they were bound) at the least.
     
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    Too bad they can't use a wood chipper- that would be ideal.
     
  4. Gwinnetian

    Gwinnetian Well-Known Member

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    IMOO I feel she willingly powered her phone off. I also think she entered the house on her own accord. Once inside, things went wrong. Very very wrong and fast. He tied her hands up with a zip tie and rope. That brings me back to the “secret room” request...I just can’t...no I don’t even want to think of what happened to her...I am relieved that they have revealed so many details to us thus far and I think LE has done a tremendous job.

    And did I hear them say they also recovered charred black fabric and buckles from an alley near his house?

    This guy is not human.
     
  5. Midwestmom2019

    Midwestmom2019 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I stand corrected as to the last days.
    We don’t know when it began. And IMO it started way before media became aware that the search had started. Some one just posted LE had his phone on the 26th. It was shortly thereafter, that the search began. IMHO.
     
  6. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    The garage has always bothered me as there was so much attention there. I think we may learn something happened there or was found there, I just don't know what. MOO
     
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    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    Again, sitting on my hands.
     
  8. NuttMegg

    NuttMegg Well-Known Member

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    I am not getting why it wasnt left with the body, or how it came out in the first place, unless he was putting pressure on her hair somehow, like dragging her after he hit her. That sounds like a terrible blow, but enough to actually dislodge part of the skull?
     
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    Not melted away? In a gas fire?
     
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    Could you post source?
     
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    Pitchfork tines are smaller than 5 cm (approx. 2 inches), so I doubt it, IMO.
     
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    Which could explain why she was tied up, that the first blow may not have been the killer blow. As you say.
     
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    Regarding the black fabric and buckles... thanks for pointing out her personal effects had them. I’m hopeful that these were just Kenzie’s artifacts and that this idiot was dumb enough to leave them in a dumpster/trash can in an alley near his house.

    Stupid is as stupid does and that is probably the most hopeful thing I can think of.
     
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    I don't understand why so many think she powered off her phone. I don't at all. IMO she did not turn her phone off. I feel sure AA did it. I think it all went bad the second she got in the car
     
  15. ?mysterian?

    ?mysterian? Well-Known Member

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    That's very generous and humane of you ;). How about a dull butter knife?
     
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    Sounds similar to a pick axe blow to me, like the implement I use in the garden to break it up in the spring.

    ETA, if true, I could envision part of her scalp coming off as he yanked the tool out. Sorry, pretty gross and depressing.
     
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    @SoCalGirl

    If it all happened in the car, I’m visualizing coins in a heavy sock. That’s a short-range deadly weapon, and I think it might not cause external bleeding.
     
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    Perhaps the mattress was used in the garage.

    Plastic never really goes away, it just becomes smaller pieces. Even if it liquified in heat, it would re-solidify as it cooled.
     
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    Okay so with this new information I have two thoughts.
    1. crime of passion...maybe thought they were something more than they were, maybe she ended things with him during the text message exchanges she gets in car he hits her, she dies and he panics
    2. She knew something she wasn't supposed to know. Some secret he was afraid of getting out ( can't even begin to speculate what) and he lured her for the purpose of killing her.

    Thoughts guys?
     
  20. Jessthinkin

    Jessthinkin Well-Known Member

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    I'm thinking it's very possible that the zipties and rope were put on to help AA move her body from his backyard to Logan Canyon...
     
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