Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #16 *ARREST*

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  1. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Nope. He was banned from campus, though. MOO
     
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  2. kikukohime

    kikukohime Well-Known Member

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    Why though? Why in the car straight away?
    Seems unlikely, when this guy is a sex pest. He'd likely take her home, everything is fine, phone is off so she isn't disturbed, doesn't have to answer anymore texts. Disagreement occurs in the throes of some sexual encounter or attempt at a sexual encounter.
    As per the Utah statute ;
    There's literally no reason for him to whack her in the car, when it's pretty obvious that he wanted some kind of sex.

    I don't think he hit her over the head in the car either. It's so unlikely with the torque that is required to cause a decent penetrating head injury, as is evidenced by the 5cm fragment of skull missing.
    Nevermind the fact that if a wound is to that degree, you will likely have brain matter coming out. Her scalp was gone. He is going to have to carry her inside the house with brain matter and blood leaking from her head? The police would have seen evidence of that on the driveway, no matter how hard this creep tried to scrub it away. It would have leaked *everywhere*.
    It's just isn't logically or logistically reasonable.

    Given that he gave away the mattress, he probably had some kind of sex with her or had her on the bed, committed the "kidnapping" aspect in conjunction with this and then in some kind of rage - he belted her over the head.

    JMO, but logically and by the letter of the Utah State law, I just can't see how any of it occurred any other way.
     
  3. Ari

    Ari Well-Known Member

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    The latest details make me so sad for MacKenzie and her loved ones. Dude is the epitome of evil!
     
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    I’m listening to the DA again. Someone asks him about the motive. He says that issues of motivation will come out as they go through the legal process. He doesn’t say anything like ‘we may never know.’ I suspect that they think they already know.
     
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  5. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    I think he could have knocked her unconscious outside the car then took her back to his place knowing she would not go willingly to have his way with her alive or dead. This guy is a sick perverted monster.

    If she planned on going to his house willingly which I don’t believe for one second wouldn’t she have questioned and thought how strange this was a single unmarried guy not have Lyft take her straight to his house only 6 min away from the park.

    This just does not make any sense to me. Why Why Why? Was he blackmailing her to lure her in? I just don’t understand why?
     
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  6. BradB

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    Kikuohime, that's an interesting take on it.
     
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  7. Tealgrove

    Tealgrove Well-Known Member

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    I watched the PC earlier today however this is my first opportunity to post.

    Sigh...it's just as horrible as I thought and I am sure that more gruesome details will be revealed over time.

    Ted Bundy was very adept at disabling his victims either in the car or just outside of his car. He typically used a tire iron and hit his victims in the head. He also slapped handcuffs on them. I just finished watching the Bundy Tapes on Netflix and found Carol DaRonch's testimony and interviews fascinating. If AA was looking to disable ML quickly he may have gone the same route.

    Head wounds bleed like crazy even if they're not lethal. Blood splatter or pooling must have been found somewhere.

    I am speechless that it appears he actually tried to cremate ML's entire body. Speechless. What a moron. In his own backyard no less. I have no words for this.

    I am even more speechless that AA's phone pinged in Logan Canyon. How stupid can you be, especially when you are purported to be an IT guy? OMG! Come on! SMH

    He had no exit strategy. I wonder if she died before she was supposed to or that it came as a surprise. Maybe his plan was to keep her alive and captive for a long period of time. It's been done before. Even if he didn't have his special "room", it could have been his longterm plan and something went wrong. His roommate claimed he had a volatile temper. Maybe ML didn't play along as he wanted. His temper may have taken over. I shudder at the thought. He was disorganized and had no plan to get rid of the body. I am convinced this is his first kill.

    This may be as simple as ML was catfished. She thought she was meeting with someone she wanted to be with and it turned out that she met up with evil beyond words.

    This guy is evil personified. I am so glad LE found ML's body without his co-operation. Game over buddy - you are done like dinner.

    MOO
     
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    Snipped:
    Police found a human bone, charred muscular tissue, part of a scalp with hair, a cellphone and other charred personal items in the excavation area in Ajayi's yard, according to charging documents. More charred items were found in an alley next to Ajayi's home.

    Here's another article that states they found the same things in his home.
    I'm not sure if this was just poor wording, or not.
    My guess is yes, because I don't know why he would have taken parts of her charred body back in the house.
    I do think he may have taken the part of her scalp out of his house after he burned her body, because imo there wouldn't have been hair on the scalp if he burned that piece at the same time he burned the body. I believe she was killed in the house, and not in his car, but that's jmo. Mackenzie Lueck's alleged killer is formally charged as prosecutors reveal more crime scene details
    snipped:
    A search of Ajayi’s home before his recent arrest uncovered a human bone, charred muscle tissue and part of a scalp with hair on it, Gill said.
     
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  9. MsBetsy

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    Well, all we know for sure is that he was texting with her the day before.
    We don't know how they met or how long they knew each other.
    A reporter who talked a friend of hers claimed she met AA on a dating App. He had her profile picture from a dating app so they may have connected that way or maybe he just had it in his phone.
    Kenzie was open about dating casually so we don't know if he was someone she knew for awhile or he was someone she never even met in person yet, but was just communicating with before she agreed to meet him.
    She must have felt comfortable enough to meet him at that hour in an isolated spot, though. Imo
     
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  10. Blue Amethyst

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    So they drove miles back towards the airport to get to his house? That is strange. I wonder what she did think of that.
     
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    I think he spent the week believing he got away with the perfect murder.

    JMO
     
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    I wonder if Gil just used home as all inclusive, like “at his house” but actually he means anywhere on his property?
     
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    I think when and where she was struck depends on when and where she became unwilling
     
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    If it's all about a rage that arose during sex, I'm not sure he would have had a pipe or hammer handy.

    I think it's quite possible that he preferred a subdued, controlled, or even incapacitated victim, particularly if she didn't realize his house was the destination. He would not have wanted a hassle or upset victim in a moving car. That doesn't mean he inflicted the blow to the head at that time. He could have gotten her under control in any number of ways. I do wonder about the two types of bindings. I don't believe he needed them for transport. That's just more work with a body that he already failed to destroy in his bumbled burn attempt. Behind the back strikes me as part of his heinous crime.
     
  15. stmarysmead

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    Excellent post and this is how I see it too. AA did not use all his wiles to get her there just to kill her immediately and have the disposal of a corpse to deal with.

    He had a sexual motivation. Maybe killing her was always part of it...maybe not. But I don’t think he attacked her in anyway in that car. Too soon. IMO.
     
  16. PurplePolkaDot

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    I think she must have been at least incapacitated before getting back to his house. I think he was concerned about her being seen there so he didn’t plan on having her walk in with him. Otherwise why meet at the park? MOO
     
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    I wonder if there had been a planned first time meeting between AA and KL that had to be cancelled due to going to her grandmother's funeral. He might have convinced her to meet him in person as soon as she returned, maybe including some pretense of offering comfort.
     
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    Does anyone know what happened with AA's ring doorbell? When was it disabled? Did LE or anyone mention that they obtained any images or info from it?
     
  19. MissMalowe

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    Just getting caught up again today. MacKenzie's threads move so fast.

    I'm also confused about hair, zip ties, and rope NOT burning.

    And as others have speculated, I'm also wondering if the fatal blow occured at the home. At first the car made sense, due to her phone being turned off so quickly. But it seems all evidence mentioned is coming from the property vs the vehicle.

    Also, he got rid of those mattresses for a reason. I suppose he could have put a dead body on it, but I think that's doubtful. It would have required him to bring her down a flight of stairs if that set came from his rental rooms or he put her on his own bed afterwards. I just don't feel that's the case. I'm thinking either she had been there previously for consensual sex or that night began as consensual sex or more than likely, a sexual assault occured there that evening.

    I don't feel she suffered for a long period of time due to the dates the neighbors have for the fires, however I don't think it began and ended in the car either. (I hate typing that)
     
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    So they are back? Is he talking or did they miss something ? If they took the door IMO it’s because there is DNA - if he isn’t talking perhaps they are doing a painstaking analysis to determine what happened sequentially once she stepped foot in his vehicle ? JMO
     
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