Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #5

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  1. sweetcandyapple

    sweetcandyapple Well-Known Member

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    Let's not blame law enforcement, we don't know what's going on there. It's an active investigation, and they do seem to be working hard and taking it seriously. They don't tell us everything they know for a reason.
     
  2. Herat

    Herat Well-Known Member

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    Which makes me worried it was she who turned it off.
     
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    If LE went through her call and text history and didn't come up with anything that could be a good indicator that ML communicated this meetup through an app or SM which may suggest not someone in her extended circle of friends. I am hopeful once the warrants come in this will lead them in the right direction.
     
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  4. savedabeez20

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    Agree...maybe the other person got mad at her and completely destroyed her phone? IDK just MOO
     
  5. CarefullyTaught

    CarefullyTaught Hope is the thing with feathers -

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    My apologies if this has already been mentioned upthread or downthread. I acknowledge that MSM reports indicate the rideshare driver has been cooperating and that LE reportedly have cleared the rideshare driver. Could it be that statement is strategic or that LE too quickly cleared the rideshare driver?

    Along the Occam’s Razor line @Tealgrove mentioned , do we for sure know there ever was another driver/car at the park, especially if s/he never came forward, no surveillance has yet tmk been revealed of said dropoff of car? Has the rideshare driver been polygraphed?

    What I’m wondering, given the late (or early) hour and relatively uncrowded time/location of the ride, the fact that a very attractive, young woman was traveling alone and may have seemed or been upset or vulnerable or distracted or exhausted given her grandma’s death and the travel, KL’s phone battery could have been dead which then provided a great opportunity for something bad to happen.

    Could the rideshare driver have pretended to stop because of car trouble, shift change, family emergency, or just quickly subdued her somewhere and stuffed her body in the trunk with her luggage and powered down her phone. The driver might not have had any other customers that night with luggage or if anyone had luggage, the driver could have apologized that his trunk lock was broken or some other excuse.

    The rideshare driver could have continued to take customers for several hours, stashed or dumped KL somewhere else in between or at the end of his or her rideshare shift, then later comeforward appearing cooperative, have long since had the car detailed and KL and her things are either alive and captive hidden somewhere or no longer alive and concealed or disposed of in someway somewhere.
     
  6. Elliot_Alderson

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    JMO, but this lead is going to lead directly to the person whose car she got in.
     
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    I can tell you with 100% certainty when a phone is powered off, it will not ping off a tower.
     
  8. LaborDayRN

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    Maybe the person Kenzie was texting lives in NSL and that is why SLCPD is now involving NSLPD.
     
  9. Tarika

    Tarika One of the snoop sisters

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    Of course...I was responding to someone’s post who stated possible reasons for turning off her cell. I gave a reason why I would turn off my cell. And, many young people are up at 3a.m. Of course it would be back on now!! Wow...please read in context. Thanks
     
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    Right let’s see this from the Lyft drivers perspective. They claim she got out of the car and walked towards the other vehicle without any apprehension and didn’t seem distressed. So, she gets out of your car and you DONT drive off immediately, if you can see her make it to the other car then 1) You stay put for a moment, maybe concerned and just needing to know she’s ok. Or 2) The other car is close! Close enough to witness this act as you’re beginning to drive away. My point is either one or two means the driver likely gotta bloody good look at that car! And if this girl made a non-hesitant bee line to the other car then she too knew the make & model (had she been in this car before) or you’d show trepidation upon approach, hell, maybe she did ‍♀️ But everything I’ve read stated the lyft driver claims she’s ‘relaxed’

    Why would a person planning on foul play do so after knowing a lyft driver got a good look at him or his/her vehicle
    If the surrounding ‘expensive’ homes are gated then I can see a resident (and friend of hers) needing to come out and pick her up but then, why the lack of cover ‍♀️
     
  11. savedabeez20

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    If it's true that her phone shut off immediately after she got in the car, how would it ping at another location if towers don't work when a phone is off? Unless she turned her phone back on...
     
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    Do we know when she decided not to go straight home from the airport? Could that be determined from her phone/online/lyft records? Did she make any calls during the lyft ride?
     
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    Actually not true. Google is a wonderful thing. It only stops pinging completely if the battery is dead or removed or if the sim card is removed.
     
  14. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t the Ones Beneath the Bed

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    The idea that you need to remove a battery to stop a phone from pinging, appears to be a myth.

    Once a phone is dead, it no longer communicates.

    This is an older article, but as far as I know, nothing has changed.

    While cellphone location technologies can quickly find people, the trail effectively ends when a device is out of power.

    Communications expert John B. Minor, who is based in Odessa, Texas and who has assisted in suspected murder cases and attempts to locate lost hikers, describes the scenario as a race against time. “If the battery is exhausted, there is no general tracking,” he told FoxNews.com.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/tech/how-tech-tracks-missing-people.amp
     
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    I'm not convinced that is her tumblr account.. But if it is, there are some interesting comments that that tumblr left on some other tumblr photos.
     
  16. Coquette

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    I say this with no disrespect intended, but is it possible that ML had a drug habit? I have known people who have and they have sought out drugs in the wee hours. I can easily see someone who is struggling with loss and grief immediately contact their dealer upon landing after a trip. Meeting in parks is incredibly common. I realize that this may not remotely be the case here, but I'd wonder about this possibility with almost anyone who would meet someone in a park at 3:00am. MOO.
     
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    IMO, this is a stretch. If LE has come out and repeatedly said the Lyft driver is cleared and not a suspect, I see no reason to question them.
     
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    Great points! What about her bags? That surely took a bit of time. That lyft driver should have seen a lot!
     
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    It's a difference of opinion and a difference in people, I think. I have been in almost exactly that situation (person I was meeting was within easy driving distance of the airport), and I still insisted that I wanted to take a Lyft. I've done this even at night, and honestly I'm more likely to do it at night. It's just easier to me to have a rideshare pick me up the minute I'm finished in the airport than to have someone sit at the airport waiting on me for 10 min to an hour having no idea if my flight will actually make it on time. What it DOES make me thing is that the person lived within 45 min of the meeting location, probably closer. A likely scenario for me personally would be "just got my bags, I'll be at the park in 15 min" and then that person would know to leave home and meet me there at that time. Otherwise they would be sitting at the park for an unknown amount of time which would be suspicious at that hour. If I actually liked and knew the person, I wouldn't want them waiting on me that long, especially at 2am. I've had my boyfriend nearly throw a fit wanting to pick me up at the airport, and I've insisted that I want to do it the way that makes me feel less bad. I guess I'm selfish in trying to not be selfish? lol idk, but it's how I do things.
     
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