Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #5

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  1. EmilyVan

    EmilyVan Skeptic

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    what about her "cloud"?
     
  2. Kirrie

    Kirrie Well-Known Member

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    Holding out hands and hope!.x
     
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  3. SoCalGirl

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    I agree. Savvy people don't meet online acquaintances at parks at 3:00 AM. They might meet friends, exes, study-buddy in those circumstances, but not someone they've been texting with online only or even someone they'd dated once or twice.

    I dated a guy one time - dinner with his friends, another couple. Everything seemed fine. Next date, he invited me to his (unfinished) house in Malibu. I drove my own car there, and the house was in a canyon, very dark, neighbors far away. Literally, the kitchen didn't even have appliances installed yet and he "cooked" dinner for me on a hot plate (dinner was horrible). I was super uncomfortable the entire time. After dinner, he told me he was going to take a shower and I could join him in the bedroom, which was through an opening cut out in the wall becasue he had no doors yet. I declined and as soon as he went through to the bedroom to "take a shower," I hightailed it out of there. Ran all the way to may car and took off. LOL Looking back, it was not "savvy" of me to go to his house for dinner after just one date. But, yeah, I did stupid things back in the day...
     
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  4. Gardenista

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    Just noticed this. What does "online only" mean in MKs post?

    'I have some experience on seeking arrangements, online only, tinder, and currently have two lol.'
     
  5. SoCalGirl

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    Yes, that was my son. Admittedly, he hasn't had contact with her in five years. A lot can change over the college years.
     
  6. MimosaMornings

    MimosaMornings Well- Known Member

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    Who’s texting at 2:30am? I’ve done it numerous times with friends. I’ve been on various websites chatting with people also.
    Received some interesting pics via text during those hours too.
    Some guys wait until their wives go to bed to get frisky online.
    JMO
     
  7. Kirrie

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    5 years living like a student at 23.
     
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  8. LadyL

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    well yeah because she is a student

    still not sure what was being implied
     
  9. InTarzana

    InTarzana On Time Out

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    Why investigate? Maybe because a MISSING PERSONS REPORT has been filed and people who know her say this is out of character to vanish? Just a wild-a---ed theory.
     
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  10. Amour4mi

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    Also ask about WhatsApp ..I know a lot ppl use that to call, video and text...She may be using that as well.
     
  11. glassheater

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    Especially a publication like the DailyMail. Their journalistic ethics are questionable at best.

    ETA ‘at best’
     
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  12. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Because the fact that a crime may have been committed against a woman in no way means the public is in danger. In fact, the likelihood is that it is an isolated event:

    "In 64% of female homicide cases in 2007, females were killed by a family member or intimate partner. In 2007, 24% of female homicide victims were killed by a spouse or ex-spouse; 21% were killed by a boyfriend or girlfriend; and 19% by another family member."
    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvv.pdf

    "Among non-IPV [intimate partner violence] related female homicides with known suspects, the victim’s relationship to the suspect was most often that of acquaintance (19.7%), stranger (15.7%), another person known to the victim in which the exact nature of the relationship or prior interaction was unclear (15.2%), or parent (15.2%) (Table 3). Non-Hispanic black victims were significantly more likely to be killed by an acquaintance (29.0%) than were non-Hispanic white victims (14.9%). A/PI and Hispanic victims were significantly more likely to be killed by a stranger (28.6% and 24.1%, respectively) than were non-Hispanic white victims (13.9%)."
    Racial and Ethnic Differences in Homicides of Adult Women...
     
  13. InTarzana

    InTarzana On Time Out

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    It's the Daily Mail - the UK version of the National Enquirer, IIRC.
     
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  14. SoCalGirl

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    My 23-yr old son has so many friends who are "fifth-year seniors," or living at home, or are back in grad school living off student loans, or who can't find jobs, or who have jobs but can't afford to move out (we're in So Cal - super expensive.). What ML is doing is not unusual or "depressing" at all for someone her age. Sounds like she's on track.
     
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    So the contact they have is texting ? Is this traditional texting ? My guess is yes because if they are trying to get access to WhatsApp snapchat and all the other apps where you can pm - well that may take awhile IMO- so who is it and are they really cooperating and when ? It’s been so long So why wait to contact LE? Hmmm I do feel something is going on here can’t think what yet!
     
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  16. klind55

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    Oh definitely! Her lifestyle/choices doesn't give someone the right to harm her. She is someone's daughter, sister, friend, loved one.
     
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  17. Kirrie

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    Different culture i guess!.
     
  18. Amour4mi

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    Exactly..I was hoping they could log into her apple id.
     
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  19. southern_scout

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    And we have no idea if she uses an app like Signal, etc. The last person she straight-texted with her might be irrelevant.
     
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    IMHO, there are always more similarities than differences. In any generation or any demographic group or any geographic location, you can find good, bad, horrific, and inspirational. Again, JMO, but I don't think KL's motivations or vulnerabilities are unique from other young women. At least, that's how I look at this case.
     
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