GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

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  1. DomCasual

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    Nice. No matter what else, I guarantee that the jury felt sympathy for her. No matter what, none of this was her fault. To mock her is disgusting, and stupid (from a strategic standpoint).
     


  2. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    I am exhausted from listening/watching Spencer. Feel like I have been sitting for a ADHD child. :lol:
     
  3. renatae

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    BBM. Exactly. This to me is the crux. Pretend he had never decided to be pro-active and murder her. Pretend he never forced her into the surgery nor "ordered up" that cocktail of meds and all the other evidence of premeditation that abounds. His inaction and active obstruction after the fact are enough to show he did not value her life and did not intervene in any meaningful way to save her. :jail:
     
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    Bravo please! OMG I am cracking up and this isnt funny! Maybe he's hoping someone will give Him a cure for it. :floorlaugh: :laughcry:
     
  5. Thundar

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    Oh thank you prosecutor for pointing out that what defense just said is not evidence.
     
  6. Chelly

    Chelly Always Remember Teghan Skiba

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    OK, I listened to Spencer with eyes closed lest his facial expressions and mannerisms would negatively influence my opinion. I think he scored a couple reasonable doubt points with M.E.'s report., but otherwise the closing, imo, was hurky jerky. Nothing he said influenced me of MM's innocence.
     
  7. Hope4More

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    I've thought the same thing. He did it to humiliate her. Same spitting on the
    dead gesture as choosing the murder date for his faux marriage. " Wedding " anniversaries thus doubled as celebrations of Michelle's death. It doesn't get any sicker or more hateful than that.
     
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    Aw crud - the WAT feed reset, so I missed the last 30-45 minutes of Spencer's close. Listening to the Perkins rebuttal now, so I'm current again.
     
  9. Chelly

    Chelly Always Remember Teghan Skiba

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    Liking the beginning of this rebuttal.
     
  10. Nymeria

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    *BBM*

    Gypsy.
    At least I do not recall him disputing anything she said.
    Kind of makes you wonder about that deal she cut with the State, hmmm?
     
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    This guy is good! So clear and adult...no smirking.
     
  12. Softail

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    21merc7 New Member

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    Classic example of a poor attorney. Even if he wins this case (I don't live in Utah, so I have no feel for the community) this is not who you want on a serious case.

    A lot of criminals appeal to this kind of attorney, the lower ranking crimes, as they think the lawyer should lie for them. Never good, they end up with more time.

    This is why defense attorneys have bad names. Not all are like this. Nor are the good ones.

    First and foremost should be a basic understanding of law, not ego games. Then comes the brilliance of figuring out how to handle a case truthfully, and in the best manner possible. I have so much more to say, but it will come out with the current anger so I cannot.
     
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    Glad to see this State's attorney.....he has great presentation

    and I do like his tie :blushing:
     
  15. bsk

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    In thinking about it, the defense didn't really need to call an ME because their claim is the original ME got it right.

    Perkins is covering good stuff in rebuttal, starting with Spencer's fudging of numbers and assumptions.
     
  16. DomCasual

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    Me, too. And I'm a bit of a tie snob!
     
  17. Ina Cognito

    Ina Cognito Lurking the web since 1995

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    Bet'cha Marty is sitting there glad he didn't actually pay money for that defense he got
     
  18. Thundar

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    Does rebuttle have a time limit? It appears prosecution is just trying to point out the misconceptions that defense just presented to the jury.
     
  19. Chelly

    Chelly Always Remember Teghan Skiba

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    I like that he is pointing out the amount of "speculation" in defense's closing.
     
  20. DomCasual

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    Anyone want to guess if this gets done today? At this point, I think quick deliberations would be very bad for the defendant, right?
     
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