Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

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The interesting thing to me is that someone who wrote the book that he wrote had the ability to mastermind something like this. I am curious why the police suspect kidnapping. I think that everything was happy go lucky until they got to the condo. I think that once she got to the condo and things started clicking with her about the red flags her friends raised they argued. I don't know that he planned to kill her and that it was something he was considering with another person. I think that when he killed her he panicked and then just copied his book the best he could. If he planned to kill her, he would have taken into account people staying at his home and that neighbors would question the smell of the burn. I don't think what happened at the airbnb house was planned on, but more of a convenience.
Remember they were privy to all their communications that tells me it was only supposed to be a meeting in the car at the park for whatever reason. She must not have wanted to go to his house with him according to the text messaging LE. They have her phone records. I’m sure he had a good story to Lure her that particular night.
 

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I think the kidnapping charge was because he took her by force and against her will. Remember LE FBI has all their communications.
The only concern I have with their communications is how much of it is role play and how much of it was serious. It has been mentioned before this could have all been role play to ML. I just hope he does not find a lawyer to try a build a mental illness case.
 
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The only concern I have with their communications is how much of it is role play and how much of it was serious. It has been mentioned before this could have all been role play to ML. I just hope he does not find a lawyer to try a build a mental illness case.
He knew he did wrong. He burned her body. It's not mental illness. Won't win that one in court. Throw in the contractor's testimony...cell door closed!
 

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Was he one of the two “sugar daddies” she spoke about? My own preconceived idea of who would “qualify” as “sugar daddy” in that culture has been somewhat updated by posts here. As long as a preset amount of money is exchanged, is there any “vetting”, financial or otherwise of the person you are exchanging photos with?

Media reports say he had pictures of her...part of how they “busted” his lies. Other reports say that at least one friend spoke with her about him and tried to warn her about him. I think it’s possible they had ac”relationship” that had existed for awhile and she felt that she “knew” him.

In her mind, perhaps they had a “professional” relationship that she felt that she controlled. In his mind, he may have been building toward getting her to meet him in person and then he’d be in control.
What did the friend warn her about? Is there a link?
 

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Of course they do but I don't see how they would have an exchange like that. You can't take someone by force and against their will with a text message or phone call. What do you think happened? He threatened her electronically?
Such a mystery. This guy is a psychopath. I believe a manipulator. I hope a lot of people from his past come forward, girls he’s dated even female employees he’s worked with in the past
 

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He knew he did wrong. He burned her body. It's not mental illness. Won't win that one in court. Throw in the contractor's testimony...cell door closed!

I have not read all the threads, is there something where police have said they found a body? I know they found burned tissue and what not where they found her belongings burned. Just was not sure if they have found the body, or if they are not going to talk about that because of the heinous nature of the crime.
 

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In reference to 2 SD's. There was a looooong discussion several threads ago about this. The comment she is quoted as saying was in reference to setting up a SD/SB posting. She was giving advice to some other person.

My take on it was that she had SET UP two sites for herself for SD/SB using the methods she gave in advice.

Not that she actually was participating with 2 SD's.

There were two comments made in the screenshot you were referencing, One was giving advice, the other continued the advice and ended with her stating she currently had two SDs. (as of 12 weeks ago)
 
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I have not read all the threads, is there something where police have said they found a body? I know they found burned tissue and what not where they found her belongings burned. Just was not sure if they have found the body, or if they are not going to talk about that because of the heinous nature of the crime.
When asked specifically about a body, LE wouldn't answer directly. I misspoke.
 

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The military posted yesterday he was only in 6 months. Isn’t boot camp about 6 months? What a freaking liar.

IIRC, the length of basic training depends on the branch of service (Army, Navy, etc.), usually somewhere between 7-10 weeks. Then you go on to advanced training for the specialty you are assigned to; the length of that training is specific to that specialty.
 

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I’m going to keep repeating my theory until it’s officially confirmed.

AA () was posing as a man with means to be a Sugar Daddy. Just look at the fake jobs on his LinkedIn and the grandiose opinion of himself with the modeling pictures.

The ruse fell apart the moment she saw his tiny house.

She probably got uncomfortable with the situation and things went down hill pretty fast from there.
 

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When asked specifically about a body, LE wouldn't answer directly. I misspoke.
I’m sure they have what remains of her are left. Most are probably still being analyzed by the crime lab in Utah. They needed something right away to arrest him. They took a lot of evidence from that house. Not everything has been analyzed yet.
 

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I’m going to keep repeating my theory until it’s officially confirmed.

AA () was posing as a man with means to be a Sugar Daddy. Just look at the fake jobs on his LinkedIn and the grandiose opinion of himself with the modeling pictures.

The ruse fell apart the moment she saw his tiny house.

She probably got uncomfortable with the situation and things went down hill pretty fast from there.
I think your right. I’m sure he raped her. He sure got rid of that mattress fast once this was all over the national news.
 

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I’m going to keep repeating my theory until it’s officially confirmed.

AA () was posing as a man with means to be a Sugar Daddy. Just look at the fake jobs on his LinkedIn and the grandiose opinion of himself with the modeling pictures.

The ruse fell apart the moment she saw his tiny house.

She probably got uncomfortable with the situation and things went down hill pretty fast from there.

You'd think the ruse would fall apart once he told her to take a Lyft to some random park in North Salt Lake. For the life of me I cannot fathom why she went along with that...
 

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Without dating apps, it would be much more difficult for sexual predators to lure women like Kenzie.

You could literally substitute any activity or location and reach a similar conclusion.

Without [grocery stores] it would be much more difficult for predators to [follow] women like Kenzie.
Without [department store dressing rooms] it would be much more difficult for sexual predators to [isolate] women like Kenzie.
Without [city parks] it would be much more difficult for sexual predators to [attack] women like Kenzie.
Without [taxis] it would be much more difficult for sexual predators to [isolate] women like Kenzie.
Without [colleges]....
Without [nightclubs]....
Without [highway rest stops]....
Without [beautiful mountainous hiking trails]....

The logical end of this reasoning is that women aren't allowed to leave the house without an escort, because predators. Which...no.

Dating apps aren't the problem. Psychopaths are the problem.
 
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