Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #12 *ARREST*

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  1. PixieStix

    PixieStix Well-Known Member

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    Also says his orientation is "unsure" it could be he struggled with his sexuality taking out his frustrations and confusion on women.
     
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  2. Herat

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    Tissue just means any soft body material - skin, organs, fat, brain, marrow. It could be anything. Any organ. Bone is just generally called bone, not tissue
     
  3. NuttMegg

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    He was reported to be a handy man, someone pointed out that fence he built, and some other stuff. Sorry I don't have the link. Maybe he had a lot of old bldg supplies stored up and made the big fire out of those, somewhat hiding her body within, either whole as some think, or dismembered as I tend to believe. He could have pointed to a stack of bldg supplies when the neighbor complained and he said "almost done".
     
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    diggndeeperstill Well-Known Member

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    Agree here...or he was just trying to make himself open to any and all sex. I know someone stated earlier we should consider or look for male and female victims.

    Did KL have a fetlife profile?
     
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    I get people wishing that perhaps the neighbors had been nosier about the fire burning at AA's, but honestly, most of us aren't Gladys Kravitz, and even if the smell was horrid, as it no doubt was, unless you have smelled a person burning, how many of us would think, "hey, I bet the next-door neighbor is roasting somebody over there". And as horrible as it was, by the time the fire was started, it was, no doubt, too late to save Kenzie anyway. Perhaps the desecration of her body could have been prevented, but she was already absent her body by then. JMO
     
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    AChristie Avid reader of case files

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    Perps committing murder, rape, etc “may be placed into deportation proceeding.” No mention of them having to serve their sentence. Please post a link showing where sentence must be served.
    • Aggravated felonies. If you commit an aggravated felony at any time after being admitted to the U.S., you may be placed into deportation proceedings. Dozens of crimes may qualify as aggravated felonies, such as murder, rape, other crimes of violence, theft with a sentence of at least one year in prison, drug or firearms trafficking, sexual abuse of a minor, child pornography, money laundering, spying, treason, or sabotage, and so on. It doesn't matter how long the person has been in the U.S., either.
    Criminal Conviction May Result in Deportation or Removal - Lawyers.com
     
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    fred&edna Out On A Limb

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    The Beatrice Munyenyezi case (New Hampshire) she lied. Interesting and worth googling. IMO. (she was not deported tho)
     
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    Desecration does not mean dismemberment. The body is " desecrated" because it is not left in a natural state when found.

    Burning the body intact is desecration. Dismembering a body is desecration
     
  9. diggndeeperstill

    diggndeeperstill Well-Known Member

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    Thank you! I’m sorry if I attributed who found that incorrectly.
    @PommyMommy csn we add his Venmo to the saved list? Just realized it’s not tagged in this post.

    Edit to tag pommymommy
     
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    Ugh I wish I could remember the case. Didn’t another case try this? It was a horrible man and a woman and they lured a friend over and she died and they threw her body in the water? It didn’t work and he was found guilty.

    I remember now. Lizzie Marriot
     
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    Does the country of origin have to agree to a deportation?
     
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  12. PixieStix

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    He did have a sex addiction and porn addition listed as interests on the Meetup profile so it's possible any genders were okay with him, but it just seems like he was looking for a specific girl to inflict his rage on.

    I couldn't find a Fetlife profile for Kenzie.
     
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    I have watched my fair share of murder trials and followed enough murder cases to know that everything you have stated is par for the course. Wouldn't you want an attorney that is willing to do whatever it takes to get you off or save your life? I know I would. Deceive and defame? I think any tough criminal defence attorney is prepared for psychological warfare.

    MOO.
     
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    *just a thought*

    Could he have convinced KL to do a threesome/group with another girl. She would have been so naive and thought it was safe. This scenario would make easier for AA and an unknown person to subdue KL.
     
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    From NOLO
    Factual Versus Legal Guilt
    The key is the difference between factual guilt (what the defendant actually did) and legal guilt (what a prosecutor can prove). A good criminal defense lawyer asks not, “Did my client do it?” but rather, “Can the government prove that my client did it?” No matter what the defendant has done, he is not legally guilty until a prosecutor offers enough evidence to persuade a judge or jury to convict.

    However, the defense lawyer may not lie to the judge or jury by specifically stating that the defendant did not do something the lawyer knows the defendant did do. (On the other hand, the lawyer cannot admit guilt against the client's wishes.) Rather, the lawyer’s trial tactics and arguments must focus on the government’s failure to prove all the elements of the crime.


    MOO its about attacking the prosecutions case to create doubt.
    "isn't it possible that..." and defend due to impairment and emotions. I hope the jury is up to seeing through the tactics.
     
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    Thank you! I actually just remembered we had looked at KL’s Venmo in an earlier thread and thought I’d try to find his because they can be interesting if they have lots of public transactions.

    Couldn’t find one by searching his name, so I looked up the name of his former roommate from the interviews in the media > found some profiles > figured out by basically stalking the profiles who might live in SLC area > looked at the roommates transactions and found the Yellow-flowers acct > based off of that confirmed it was him.

    Haha that is probably the short version, but really I just went down a rabbit hole out of boredom. Once I found the correct acct I was also able to match a transaction for “cleaning” to one of his former cleaners who has also been in MSM.
     
  17. DianaElaine

    DianaElaine Well-Known Member

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    I’d just like to offer .... I’m a long time member of Fetlife, so if anyone would like me to delve deeper, I have no problems doing so.

    I’ve read the Mod’s restrictions on what we can post, or not post about his profile, etc., and will check with them if I feel something is questionable to post.
     
  18. Inthedetails

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    He could have a sex addiction.....and/or he wanted to meet people with sex addiction because he thought they would be easy-to-obtain partners. Ykwim?

    I am suspicious of some of his interests - I think he used those interests to find prey.

    For example, I think he listed cross-dressing as an interest. Hey, maybe he is a cross dresser - could very well be. Or, he wanted to hook up with cross dressers and then hurt them - perhaps while filming the assault. They are rather safe victims because they might be unlikely to press charges and lose privacy.

    His profile scares me as I'm a fan of Meetup.

    jmo
     
  19. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    That would be helpful, but as you report back here, please don't just post a link. I don't want to follow a link there.....but I am willing to read summaries, etc.

    Tia.

    jmo
     
  20. DianaElaine

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    I won’t post any links.
     
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