Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #13 *ARREST*

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  1. Thespyma

    Thespyma Well-Known Member

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    Civilian contractors do not go to Army Basic Training, only military enlistees. His discharge does not mean he actively did anything bad. I have not seen if his discharge was under general or dishonorable. If less than 180 days he is probably not qualified to have benefits or veteran status in most but not all states. The discharge for medical can include anything preexisting, even shin splints, minor heart defects or ADD. We simply do not nor likely will not know about the discharge unless it is brought up in court.
     
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  2. tmar

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    However as Police interviewed him several days later, I would think any videos he may have had of Kenzue, he would wipe off, in case he was further investigated.
    MOO.
     
  3. Criminal Justice mom

    Criminal Justice mom Well-Known Member

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    Basically, he never completed training, worked as IT in some capacity for 6 months before he was shown the door, imo for not being mentally sound. He doesn't deserve any recognition for any military service and only used it to manipulate others.
     
  4. kaen

    kaen Trying to be a good human.

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    Whenever we are posting about this man's proclivities in the sexual realm, I feel compelled to write once again that crimes like this may have a sexual component but are really crimes of violence and power over. It is not about sex or sexual pleasure for him.
     
  5. Criminal Justice mom

    Criminal Justice mom Well-Known Member

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    I understand, I was saying he was possibly hired as a civilian and decided to enlist where he didnt make it.
     
  6. Boxer

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  7. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I don’t see her remaining on this case anyways.

    I don’t think he can afford her, and this isn’t the type of case that I see her taking on for publicity.

    It’s a loser.
     
  8. Criminal Justice mom

    Criminal Justice mom Well-Known Member

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    Maybe profits from his book sales... Well, if Amazon hadn't pulled it anyway.
     
  9. Anance

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    It doesn't matter what AA did in the Army. The only points necessary for us are: 1)the dates don't match his claims, indication of the general puffery of his self-presentation and evidence of lying, 2) he was discharged after a short time due to medical reasons.

    That's it."Medical Reasons" we can speculate they are psychiatric. But it's not relevant to the present situation. Enough people have forward stating AA was superficially glib but had another, sinister side to his personality.
     
  10. Lillymac

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    It wouldn't surprise me if the money didn't mysteriously show up.
     
  11. Thespyma

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    They usually place those on the waitlist for a decision on a discharge in clerical or IT positions. Gives them busy work while they continue to be paid...
     
  12. BelieveinUFO

    BelieveinUFO Well-Known Member

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    This case has lots of holes. Just the case she would love to take and he may be out of prison in 40 years. Honestly, I don't think he can survive 10 years.
     
  13. gliving

    gliving Just the facts, ma'am

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    It wouldn't surprise me if the nexus is money. Sex playing a supporting role.
     
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    Is anyone able to find the article/video where Susanne Gustin was named AA's attorney? Fox13 deleted their article.
     
  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Lots of holes?

    We have no idea the extent of the evidence, but Kenzie’s body was found burned in this guy’s backyard.

    He denied knowing her, yet had pictures of her on his phone.

    He is the last person she texted.

    His phone and her phone were at that park.

    Desecration of a corpse is an aggravating factor.

    Kidnapping is an aggravating factor.

    That’s why he’s charged with aggravated murder.

    When he is convicted, he’s looking at life without parole, or death.
     
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    I am unclear on this.
    Do you have a time line you could share?
    I thought he was picked up for questioning at the same time as the search warrant was served at his house.
    While being questioned he had a panic attack or something and police took him to hospital then released when his hold ran out

    I didn't think he went home in the time between being released and being arrested at his friends apartment building.

    I am just hopeful he left irrefutable evidence of aggravated murder.
     
  17. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    That’s good, because I don’t have a British accent in the first place.

    Lost it.
     
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    Short of physically destroying the hard drive his videos were saved, forensic computer specialists can access or recover deleted data. If AA did film KL or other women, he mostly likely shared or even sold them. Not only leaving a trace as it travels through the Internet, but the recipient now has some splainin to do.

    Just a theory: Maybe he was selling the sex videos. BDSM videos command higher prices as do most fetish videos. To further increase his income, AA could enter live streaming of what's called a red room. Here various clients pay to view the sexual content live and request specific actions. IMHO, the secret room was intended for this purpose. While his prime motivation is to satisfy his fantasies, AA also profits from the experience.

    Getting rid of the mattress and replacing it with a massage table also fits because the table allows more activities. And, we know the desired final result of sadistic sexual fantasies. A red-room client can even request it.
     
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