UT UT- STILL MISSING 5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley , Logan, 25 May 2019 (UNCLE ARRESTED)

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  1. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    Maybe drag marks, or a path beaten down in bushes, where there wasn't one before.
    Maybe dogs hitting more in some areas than they are in others.
    MOO
     


  2. mistivon

    mistivon Verified Insider - Maricela Garcia

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    My first thought was footprints
     
  3. SuperTmo

    SuperTmo Well-Known Member

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    It could also just be that neither he nor ES were found in the house and he was outside with her clothing in his possession.
     
  4. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    maybe they have video evidence of them together leaving the home. But then very quickly, he is seen alone in other videos?
     
  5. theirmommy

    theirmommy NE Patriots fanatic

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    Exactly what I think
     
  6. Rosiebones

    Rosiebones Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this and if the evidence is home camera surveillance perhaps they can tell that she is already dead. They would then assume that no one would carry a dead child around for long and would look for somewhere close by to leave her.
     
  7. MuddyTires

    MuddyTires Well-Known Member

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    Where's that quote from?
     
  8. 1&2&3

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    They need the scent dogs that were so good in the AJ Freund case that determined that he had not walked out of the house.

    I was amazed how quickly those dogs were able to determine answers for LE.
     
  9. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native - now residing in Jacksonville

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  10. Dre

    Dre Well-Known Member

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    I think its likely that it was an item of clothing dropped while walking through yards or something? However I’m so surprised she hasn’t been found yet...
    I’m thinking the clothes he had on him had blood and or semen on them as they’ve been “forensically tested”

    “police now say forensically tested evidence confirms 5-year-old Elizabeth Shelley's uncle is somehow connected to her disappearance..
    Evidence indicates Alex Whipple and Shelley were together inside the home and outside the home during the hours in question on Saturday.”
    Police: Evidence links 5-year-old Logan girl's uncle to her disappearance
     
  11. MuddyTires

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    re: why they held it: to give an update on what is a newsworthy community event, ask the public to specifically look for and be aware of certain things, and to read the family's statement, which included a plea for privacy. Each of those by itself is a sufficient enough reason, but here they had all three.

    re: the "giggling: Really? There was a little bit of lightness about switching the mikes as they were switching the mikes from the one to the other. Not sure what the problem is there. They're human beings, not robots.
     
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    And that would explain why they might be searching areas they’ve already searched—if they know, or think they know, that she’s in a limited area.
     
  13. theirmommy

    theirmommy NE Patriots fanatic

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    The press conference I believe
     
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    The PR states they obtained warrants for evidence on his person and found evidence of her on him. I wonder if swabs were taken of "areas". Im disgusted even saying that but the wording kind of impliesnit
     
  15. MuddyTires

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    No, it was not from the press conference nor any other official statement from police that I've seen. Another poster responded with a link to an article from where the quote came. Other than "evidentiary value", which is in quotes and thus presumably a direct quote, those are the words of the reporter.
     
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  16. Herat

    Herat Way out West

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    From the article, the train does not now go from Logan to Hyrum.

    It makes two round trips weekly north to Preston, Idaho, and two round trips weekly to Cache Junction, Utah. I looked up the Union Pacific employee Salt Lake City Timetable, page 35 but I can't make hide nor hair of it.
     
  17. AgeofAquaruis

    AgeofAquaruis Well-Known Member

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    Police: Evidence links 5-year-old Logan girl's uncle to her disappearance
    Tiffany Justice video reporting on search.
    Did she make a mistake that the parents woke up at 2am and noticed Elizabeth missing??????????
    Because all other reports state the parents last saw her,at 2am,and noticed her missing at around 9:30 am.
    There's a big difference in timing here.
    I hope it gets cleared up.
    MOO
     
  18. Herat

    Herat Way out West

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    Would she be wearing shoes if they were both identified outside the home?
     
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    It does imply such doesn't it. Welcome to WS.
     
  20. MsMarple

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    That makes sense as it's only about 1/2 mile from the home. How far could AW have gotten on foot, carrying a 5-year-old? My guess is not very far. The estimated lead time AW had is about 7 hours, is that correct? And then about 5 more hours after Elizabeth was reported missing.

    Is the time the family actually went to bed themselves posted anywhere? All I've seen is that Elizabeth was last seen at 2 am. Thanks!
    Google Maps
    ‘We believe she’s been harmed’: Police search for missing 5-year-old girl in Logan
    http://web.loganutah.org/Police/media.cfm
    ETA: Ah, I see he was spotted alone at a gas station around 1:30 pm.
    Employee: Suspect in missing child case came into Hyrum gas station
    Google Maps
     
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