UT -Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City, 6 Dec 2009 - #7

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  1. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Everyone,

    First I would like to say how beautiful the candle light vigil was last night for Susan.

    Susan has many people who love and miss her terribly.

    I was fortunate enough to meet several of Susan's closest friends and Susan's in-laws. Josh's sister and mother. Very lovely people.

    It was brought to my attention last night that the reason some of these people haven't been posting lately is because they don't know where to put what they have to say. The threads are a bit confusing and the last thing they want to do is to post something on the wrong thread.

    They said they felt very comfortable posting on the "General Discussion" threads.

    We certainly want their input and information about Susan's case so to make things a bit more comfortable I am starting up a general discussion thread.

    PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THIS A SUBSTITUTE FOR FORUM TOPICS.

    Please don't make this thread grow day and night while the rest of the forum withers away. This is one reason why we eliminate the discussion threads when we open a forum because that is generally what happens.

    This thread is for those who know Susan to post on and for us to respond to.

    Also, if you feel you want to say something and you are truly not sure where to put it then you can put it here.

    Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

    Tricia
     
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  3. Frigga

    Frigga New Member

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    Tricia, Thank you for sharing your experience with us. I know many of us wish we had been able to attend Susan's vigil and offer our support. I hope her family and friends know how many lives Susan's story has touched and how much we have wished for a different outcome. I am grateful to know that she had many people who loved and adored her, and that Josh was just one small person compared to the love she felt from so many other people, that knew and loved her. Her children deserve to be with THOSE people. I pray every day for justice for Susan, because when that happens, there will be justice, comfort and safety for her sweet and beautiful boys as well! For now, they are in my thoughts and prayers daily!
     
  4. RubyRed

    RubyRed "Keep on Truckin"

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    Why is the WVCPD so quiet? With it being the 3 month mark of Susan going missing, I have wondered why they aren't speaking out.
     
  5. grayjay

    grayjay Active Member

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    Me too, Ruby! I've been hoping they'd make some comments that would help in the case of a wider search. They sounded very confident. According to Fox13 news yesterday,
     
  6. dovebar

    dovebar Former Member

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    Is there any way to find out a whole listing of properties that Josh represented while a real estate agent?

    IF this wasn't premeditated, it had to be someplace quick, in a snowstorm, to leave her. Since they apparently DIDN'T camp that much, another place might be property adjacent to some he represented.

    IF the child really said "woods," than Josh claiming the area he did doesn't fit. Kids this age do know that woods means trees. Since Josh is from Washington and had a lot of time to be gone, I find it more likely that they drove north, the stretch of road between West Valley City and Idaho or Washington that they would have driven before. There are many places that would have been plowed but dark, many lower canyons, many woodsy forested areas.

    Do we know if there have been toxicology tests on anything else in the home? Pitchers, pans, glasses, in case she had been being poisoned slowly and then one big final dose.

    The big thing that bothers me is that the child's report does fit with abusive partners, who will often hurt an animal or a person in front of others as an "example", to coerce future behavior. Imagine what a child would think about the consequences of being "bad" - it gets you left in dark woods, alone.
     
  7. sunnydee

    sunnydee New Member

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    Some questions for anyone who knows Josh and Susan:

    1. What college did Josh graduate from?
    2. When did Susan begin working as a stockbroker?
     
  8. Bartleby

    Bartleby New Member

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    He initially worked for HOMEnet Real Estate, you could ring them up and ask.

    My understanding is he sold a handful of homes in his time, but no more. He seems to think the best way to eat a melon is to swallow it whole.
     
  9. sunnydee

    sunnydee New Member

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    So if the Susan Powell.org page is the place to go for updated exclusive photos, videos - why is there so little there?
     
  10. sunnydee

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  11. Jules71

    Jules71 Active Member

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    What do you make of this?

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    http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Sea...tell-his-side-of-the-story?cid=examiner-email

    In January Examiner.com offered to interview one of Josh's friends. The friend put unusual conditions on sharing his story and has, to date, not agreed to share his story. During a phone conversation he did say, "If I knew Josh was in town at 5 a.m. the day Susan went missing, don’t you think that story would be worth at least $1,000?”
     
  12. PickieChickie

    PickieChickie Former Member

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    March 10, 2010 - Examiner.com is not the first, and likely won't be the last, to extend an offer to Josh Powell to share his side of the story in the mysterious disappearance of his wife, Susan Cox Powell. The offer was also extended to Josh's father, Steven Powell aka Steven Chantrey.

    Two simultaneous candlelight vigils were held in Susan Cox Powell's honor Saturday evening - one in West Valley City, Utah, Susan's home at the time of her disappearance, and the other in Josh and Susan's hometown of Puyallup, Wash.

    Since Susan's disappearance Josh has received strong public criticism for the story he told police and media, and for his actions, and inactions, since Susan went missing.

    Several hours before the vigils were scheduled to begin Josh was seen across the street from his father's house with his 3-year old son Braden. Josh then got up, rushed across the street and with his head down, escorted Braden into their back yard, then into the house.

    Braden could be heard crying as they approached the house. It is believed Josh rushed inside when he spotted a TV camera crew on his front porch.

    A short time later Examiner.com spoke with Josh and his father, Steven Powell, in front of their Country Hollow home. Both Josh and Steven were offered a chance to share their side of the story.

    Steven denied the offer, stating he'd read the news and did not believe their side of the story would be told.

    Before long Steven was raising his voice, threatening he'd called the police after spotting media in the neighborhood - a Q13Fox TV camera crew and Examiner.com. Evidently he did not realize we were invited guests.

    Both of Josh's sons, 5-year old Charlie and 3-year old Braden, were in the front yard with Steven and Josh.

    During the conversation Charlie stood next to Steven several feet from the car. A deep, sad look could be seen in Charlie's eyes and his facial expressions were in stark contrast to earlier photos of Charlie - a happy, well-adjusted looking kid.

    An attempt was made to let Steven and Josh know their story would be told in a fair and truthful manner and that Examiner.com is willing to share with its reader's information Josh and/or Steven believe has either been overlooked or that they feel has unfairly put either of them in a negative light to the public.

    Steven repeatedly refused our offer stating there would be no fair reporting. He became confrontational, raising his voice and coming closer to the car.

    Josh, with Braden next to his side, spoke for the first time, urging his father to stop and go inside the house, which they ultimately did.

    SOURCE: Isabelle Zehnder - Seattle Examiner
    http://www.examiner.com/x-34328-Sea...tell-his-side-of-the-story?cid=examiner-email
     
  13. Dr.Fessel

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    Well I hope the Examiner turned that tip into the police back in January.
     
  14. PickieChickie

    PickieChickie Former Member

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    I recall around that time Wayne Hamburg posting on the wall of the "susan powell part 2" Facebook group that the Seattle Examiner called him wanting an interview. The fact that I've not read an interview published by Isabelle containing quotes from him leads me to deduct this is who made that statement!
     
  15. grayjay

    grayjay Active Member

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    Me too. I don't think this guy is figuring the $10,000 reward is easy pickings for him. I would love to read what the terms and conditions were that he wanted. He sounds like he could actually eventually need a lawyer himself. LOL.
     
  16. Jules71

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    snipped:
    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...line-of-days-surrounding-Susans-disappearance

    2:30 p.m.: JoVonna arrives to the Powell home to help Susan untangle yarn
    For the next hour-and-a-half to two hours, Susan and JoVonna work on untangling yard; boys play, Josh continues cooking brunch
    4 or 4:30 p.m.: Josh served a late brunch; he served everyone individually rather than buffet-style
    5 or 5:30 p.m.: Susan went to take a nap; JoVonna saw Josh take the boys out to the garage; Josh told her he was taking them sledding
    Before JoVonna left, she told Josh she could bring the yarn back that evening
    Josh declined her offer stating Susan wouldn't get a chance to work on it until her next days off
    8 or 8:30 p.m.: JoVonna states neighbor said they saw Josh come home
    11:45 p.m.: It was reported a car alarm went off for about 2 minutes at the Powell home; police were not called
    Midnight: Josh claims Susan went to bed
    12:30 a.m.: Josh claims he took the boys on an impromptu camping trip to the West Utah Desert during a snowstorm and subfreezing weather


    So within an hour of Susan eating, she went to take a nap (was that normal or abnormal for her?). I believe he put something in her food. 3 hours later Josh returns from sledding with the boys. Did the boys see Susan then? When did they go to bed? I bet they did not see her and he put them to bed right away. I am assuming the two fans and wet spot were not there when JoVonna left the Powell home.

    I believe Josh killed Susan between the time he returned from sledding (8-8:30 pm) and the time the car alarm went off (11:45 pm). I believe the car alarm went off when he was loading Susan’s body into the van. I believe he then got the boys into the van and drove somewhere and disposed of Susan’s body.

    What is the layout of the home? Did Susan go to her bedroom to take a nap? Where in relation to her room was the wet spot on the floor? Did he kill her in her room or at the location of the wet spot? I believe Josh killed her by drugging, strangling, or suffocation. I think the wet spot was either vomit or bodily fluids, not blood.

    How far could Josh drive and return that would take him from let’s say 12:30 am to 6:00 pm. 17.5 hours. To me the search area would be in any direction he could get to in 9 hours. But what about purchasing the torch? What time? And how far away?

    This is frustrating to say the least. If this post should be somewhere else, please let me know.
     
  17. grayjay

    grayjay Active Member

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    There was a post a while back, and I'd have a hard time finding it, where OK5 provided a layout of the home. The bedrooms are on the left, the living room and behind it the kitchen in the middle, and the garage on the right.

    It was worded that Susan went to take a nap.

    Josh may have returned to WVC in the morning according to rumors, so I've revised my ideas considerably and think he didn't go so far away.
     
  18. dovebar

    dovebar Former Member

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    Remember that there wouldn't just be driving time, there would be time to leave the body, although if there was snow, one would just need to find a quiet stretch of highway or a river.

    Somewhere with woods. Somewhere he had passed before, somewhere plowed or passable at that time of night and weather. To me, this all argues for a remote stretch of highway north of Ogden, possibly north of the Utah line. It's still interstate but very remote and quiet at that time of night. They would likely have driven this stretch either on the move down or on visits north. It's only a couple of hours to the state line, and a couple hours back. There are also numerous canyons in between that would be quiet and remote yet passable - Huntsville canyon.

    It's possible that they went further into the Oquirrh mountains to the west of West Valley City, but these areas would be less likely to have been plowed, and too much in the direction of where he claimed they camped. I don't believe for a minute that the police would have been told the general direction truthfully.
     
  19. RubyRed

    RubyRed "Keep on Truckin"

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    here it is

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4757643&postcount=1270"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - UT-Susan Powell, 28, West Valley City; thread #6[/ame]
     
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    What a soul selling sucker this guy is. Hope LE did give him a call!
     

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