VA - Amy Bradley - missing from cruise ship, Curacao - 1998

And, if I recall from the amyismissing.com website, the photographer who took the "Amy escort" photo was from...Curacao.

Lots, and lots of interconnections and "coincidences", when one delves into things.
 
I highly recommend that everyone read the information at )ezel’s link above. Lot’s of information!

Here are a few things that I picked up:

So many people point out that Amy wouldn’t have been an ideal “trafficking target” for a couple reasons: That she wasn’t in an “at risk” kind of category- she was from a solidly middle class family with funds to hire a PI, etc., and was close with her family and would be missed, looked for, etc. Also, while Amy is attractive, she’s not a “knockout”, so to speak.

There are actually TWO threads on the site that discuss specific women who are missing and who have been matched up to women advertised on these erotic vacation websites, mostly owned or otherwise associated with by a small group of people, at least one of which looks an awful lot like one of the “handlers” described by witnesses in Amy’s case and which operate in and around the Caribbean.

Who knows if these women who are advertised on the adult websites are, in fact, the women who went missing, but most seem to be pretty similar looking, with one even seeming to have the same partially missing finger digit as a missing woman and who also just happens to look an awful lot like her. I have no idea how much analysis went into these matches, but the similarities between them are startling, IMO.

Some things I noted: The women were of a broad age range, everything from well under 18 and into their 30’s. One of the most striking things I noted was that most of these women are definitely not “knockouts”. I saw very average looking women who were made up -glamorized in their adult website photos.

And: None of the missing women were known to have ever been associated with sex work or in other high risk categories, such as runaways. They were from various parts of the U.S. and even Canada and, if we believe the photos, were trafficked to do sex work in and around the Caribbean, where we’re told that certainly no one would ever have any need to traffic American women, since prostitution is legal in some of those countries and it would be so easy to get local women. Food for thought.

fridaybaker, you make so many excellent points. To add to this: just because someone doesn't fit the typical profile of a woman or girl targeted for human trafficking doesn't mean it it's impossible or didn't happen. It's possible that Alister Douglas just had a "thing" for Amy, which, if I remember correctly, is what his daughter alluded to at some point (can't find a source for this other than the Reddit post I already linked to above). It's possible that he was actually attracted to the challenge of trafficking someone atypical like Amy. It's possible that this was more of a spontaneous thing, not planned out very well or at all, but just happened to work. One-offs and abnormal circumstances happen. We don't know what the thought process was here. Heck, someone on Reddit commented that they thought Amy could've been targeted because she looked a bit like Princess Diana, who was very popular (posthumously) at the time, with her haircut. We don't know...doesn't mean it didn't happen.
 
Well, I'll take a stab at why this case holds such "fascination", if that's what it is: How many of these overboards are still active investigations within the FBI many years later? How many happened sans any evidence, such as a witness, someone hearing a scream, scuff marks on rails, etc.

How many happened exactly at the time when a kidnapping would likely occur -when the ship was in docking procedures?

I've read about several cases over the years of people going overboard, but never one like this. Many accounts, from different people, of strange happenings surrounding the disappearance, including missing cruise photos (all photos of Amy missing, but none of anyone else). A record of the missing person complaining about "creepy" people who had expressed interest in her.

Here is the crux of why I find this case so compelling: The patterns. The story. One can lay it all out chronologically: Amy goes on a cruise and meets, dances with, a guy who many end up characterizing as "creepy". Amy is "partying", out having fun and, as such, likely off her normal, day-to-day "guard".

Parents feel that the attention given her is odd. She, herself, complains about them. She's seen very early, as the ship is starting docking procedures, accompanied by the guy from the night before, who "gives her something to drink - a dark liquid". They're both seen going up in the glass elevator to the disco floor, but only one is seen coming down. There is a freight/staff elevator behind the disco which, conveniently, is not glass.

As the boat is docking, Amy becomes missing. Then, there are the sightings. They are mostly in and around the Caribbian, with the exception of the SF sighting. Even that sighting, though, is taken very seriously by the FBI, and seems to involve some of the same "handlers" identified in the other sightings. They are all within a few months to a few years after the disappearance, and witnesses describe details that haven't been released to the public, such as the watch and tattoos. A few years later -again, within months to a few years after the disappearance- a professional analyist determines that she is, indeed, the adult escort pictured on a website. (Except now with long, permed hair.)

Yes, people do go overboard on cruise ships. The chances of it are incredibly low, considering the millions of people who take cruises every year, but it does happen. I can say; however, that I've never followed any of the other cases because they seem to be just what they are: Someone who fell, got pushed, or committed suicide.

Really, is there another story out there like Amy's?

Tried to post link...Have you seen the George Smith mystery?
 

Tried to post link...Have you seen the George Smith mystery?
I've read about the GS case over the years. Of course, it looks an awful lot like his new "friends" did him in, but the case highlights well what I think is one of the biggest problems of cruises: They are full of strangers who are thrown into a confined space together, who are often drinking -many quite heavily- and usually totally off their guard. Cruises are famous for strangers getting together, and there seems to be very little security on board, at least traditionally that's been the case.

Put those things together with a culture that is incresingly disparate, violent, and just lacking in self restraint, and it would seem to be a disaster. Not all the time, of course. However, I do believe that cruising, especially on the large ships, can be pretty dangerous. Which brings me to my next point: When you read about the George Smith case, or others wherein someone goes missing off of a cruise ship, such as Rebecca Coriam, what really stands out is the Cruise Line's truculence and perseverence in maintaining that nothing terrible happened. These cases always involve massive contention with the families, who become very aware that the Cruise Line is looking our for THEIR interests, not the passengers.

Just ask Rebecca Coriam's family about Disney and how kind and cooperative it's been.
 
I haven't seen a lot of people write that they think she ended her life on purpose. I think most of the overboard theory supporters think it was an accident.

On the surface, that would make sense. But in order to subscribe to the overboard theory, you have to believe the following all at once:

  1. Amy's cruise photos being missing meant nothing
Bbm.
Are you saying that all ship or onboard security photos of AB disappeared ?
Only the staff could access those, correct ?
Omo.
 
Chimera, I'm not Jezel, but I am sure she's talking about one of the key pieces of curious information in Amy's case: The cruise photos.

On the evening before she disappeared, the ship displayed photos taken of all the passengers, so that they could be purchased as keepsakes. It's routine for cruise ships to do this. However, when Amy and her mother went to look at them, Amy's were missing. It seemed hers were the only ones. After Amy went missing, the family became aware that, yes, Amy did have photos taken -per the photographer- just like everyone else, and hers were the only ones missing.
 
Chimera, I'm not Jezel, but I am sure she's talking about one of the key pieces of curious information in Amy's case: The cruise photos.

On the evening before she disappeared, the ship displayed photos taken of all the passengers, so that they could be purchased as keepsakes. It's routine for cruise ships to do this. However, when Amy and her mother went to look at them, Amy's were missing. It seemed hers were the only ones. After Amy went missing, the family became aware that, yes, Amy did have photos taken -per the photographer- just like everyone else, and hers were the only ones missing.
This is correct.

As a side note, the case of David Sneddon strikes me as similar to Amy's. An American disappears in a foreign country. The official line is that he is dead, but circumstantial evidence trickles in over the years that he was actually abducted and could certainly still be alive. Both cases haunt me.
 
Jezel, I think it's 99.999% certain that DPRK took David Sneddon. There's so much evidence. Kim Jong Il admitted that they'd been kidnapping people with special skills, such as English, and several captives were released subsequently. (One, incidentally, was an American.)

David was fluent in Korean, and was last seen at a Korean Cafe in China before he disappeared. It is thought that he was captured to serve as Kim Jong Un's English tutor. Since then, defectors and others have said that he's been seen there.

Everything I've read about David's case suggests to me that this is what happened. He was a perfect target. Traveling alone in a remote area of China (Tiger Leaping Gorge) and fluent in English, Chinese and...Korean.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies.

I've wondered if the other security camera footage of AB say, while she was eating or out dancing, the cameras that are in place for filming various rooms/areas -- is the footage of AB in that specific footage ?
If I were the family, I'd want to spend as much time as possible looking at any footage of AB and whom she may have interacted with.
Omo.
 
I go back and forth on this case.
-I don't think she went overboard of her own accord. With help? Possibly.
-Though the pictures are certainly compelling, I am not convinced of the trafficking angle. It would have taken a lot of planning and coordination. Amy was with her family, which would have tremendously complicated things. It would have been far easier to traffic a young unsuspecting tourist who wasn't with family, a tourist who was already on the island, or to lure someone once off the boat. This all just seems too complex when there would have been easier targets. Tourists in port drink too much and could easily be taken advantage of.
-I do find it interesting that the FBI still has an award out. If they thought she went overboard on her own, I don't think that would be the case.
-I sort of lean in the direction of an encounter with someone on board that did not go as planned, Amy ended up unconscious or deceased, and she needed to be hidden or disposed of.

This mystery is definitely intriguing and one of the cases I'd most like to see a resolution to.
 
This is from the archives , 1999. Just in case anyone’s interested.

Thank you for posting this article. It really brings Amy and her family to life as individuals, and , IMO, dispels some of the speculation that has built up over the years. It confirms the sighting of Amy that morning with “Yellow” on the elevator as well as his strange statements to Brad.
 
Has anyone seen the Jas photo in this clear resolution? I have no idea if this was edited or if someone got the raw photo. The photos of Jas on AAV's old website (and on here over the years) has been very low resolution (I haven't seen this in 12+ years of reading about this.) I figured it's strange. It's on a few pages re: Amy but the original link for this is: The Mysterious Disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley

Side Note: I don't believe she is alive. I think she met her fate on the cruise.
 

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Did someone get the actual camera that the photo was taken on?

First thumbnail is AAV's upload to the URL of the old AAV website
The second one is the new one IN EXTREMLEY CLEAR RESOLUTION.


(MAKE SURE TO CLICK THE PHOTOS THE PREVIEW DOES NOT SHOW THE IMPROVEMENT IN QUALITY ON THE THUMBNAIL).
 

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Here is the old Jas photo (DIRECTLY FROM "AAV's website on Wayback machine") compared to the new one I posted above.

Did someone get the actual camera that the photo was taken on?

First thumbnail is AAV's upload to the URL of the old AAV website
The second one is the new one IN EXTREMLEY CLEAR RESOLUTION.


(MAKE SURE TO CLICK THE PHOTOS THE PREVIEW DOES NOT SHOW THE IMPROVEMENT IN QUALITY ON THE THUMBNAIL).
I definitely do t believe she met her fate on the cruise. There is way too much evidence otherwise.
I do, however believe very strongly that “Jaz” is Amy.
Have you ever taken the facial recognition test? There are some offered online.
 
I definitely do t believe she met her fate on the cruise. There is way too much evidence otherwise.
I do, however believe very strongly that “Jaz” is Amy.
Have you ever taken the facial recognition test? There are some offered online.
all of the 'evidence' comes from the family.. I don't mean to be rude but besides a few shady eyewitness accounts (add Frank Jones who had a 'fake amy' with fake tattoos etc.. sent photos to the family and conned them.)

I've never seen anything pointing to a single sign of life. The family has also stated in the past that the FBI isn't on best terms with them..

The forensic analysis was done on the blurry photograph of Jas. The one I posted above (new 2024) shows a very clear picture that was never seen prior to this year (AFAIK). Also, the FBI forensic artist is from the Bradley's hometown. Has anyone else ever went over the photo?
 

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